[theroad]

I'm doing good lol. You know, there is a guy in comic books that is bombarded with Gamma Rays, turns himself into an Alpha male. But I guess the fact that I read comics made me a Beta male...

Friday was a good day. Woke up to unexpected, uninitiated-by-me "fun". Kids were downstairs watching Disney. First time she had ever been comfortable doing that without the kids being fast asleep. Also snooped on the iPad history. She had been looking up hotel rooms and restaurants in our hometowns for weekend in February. (3 hours away in opposite directions). Didn't book anything, but that still made me feel good. She was also looking at garage shelving at Home Depot. Didn't feel as good there.

We are heading on a better path. Just hope to get though the work trip unscathed. I think we will. But will verify.
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Wife is going away.

She is looking at restaurants and hotels 3 hours in the other direction.

Your are not worried.

Why is she looking at places 3 hours away from where she said she is going?

 

[PhillyGuy13]

Didn't I politely tell you to go away? Your reading comprehension skills are terrible.
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[PhillyGuy13]

Yeah, her master plan is to bring our kids to my parents house 3 hours away so they can babysit, while she takes her lover to a hotel room 5 minutes from my parents house. All unbeknownst to me. I will wonder why the house is so quiet that weekend, and I I know my parents wouldn't think it was odd they were all in town without me. You tool.
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[Hicks]

Phillyguy.... You are doing great. When your wife is engaged in the marriage don't kick her in the face. I would only advise being careful on the spying.

Look at it this way. There are two possibilities. One is your wife is being truthful. One is your wife is not being truthful.

If your wife is being truthful, and she finds you spying, you will look like an insecure dork and she will get turned off to you sexually. It's way more attractive to be confident in your marriage. You get this confidence from within. By knowing that if she is a cheater (not being truthful), tha it's not important to catch her in real time.... You just know that if you catch her ever you will coldly shut down the marriage...

 

[Machiavelli]

I'm doing good lol. You know, there is a guy in comic books that is bombarded with Gamma Rays, turns himself into an Alpha male. But I guess the fact that I read comics made me a Beta male...

The thing about Gamma Rays is that they're like a box of chocolates. One time you get Spider Man, the next time you get the Hulk. Or Elastic Man. If it weren't for Gamma Rays, Marvel Comics would not even exist.

 

[thummper]

Yeah, her master plan is to bring our kids to my parents house 3 hours away so they can babysit, while she takes her lover to a hotel room 5 minutes from my parents house. All unbeknownst to me. I will wonder why the house is so quiet that weekend, and I I know my parents wouldn't think it was odd they were all in town without me. You tool.
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Oh, whew! My heart started pounding there for a second. I thought, "Oh, no. He's found out some secret plan she's made. Damn! And things seemed to be going to well for them" But then it hit me.....Oh for heaven's sake. HE'S the lover!!! :smthumbup: Silly me! Philly, you're a lucky guy! Wish my wife would do that for me.

 

[weightlifter]

Oh, whew! My heart started pounding there for a second. I thought, "Oh, no. He's found out some secret plan she's made. Damn! And things seemed to be going to well for them" But then it hit me.....Oh for heaven's sake. HE'S the lover!!! :smthumbup: Silly me! Philly, you're a lucky guy! Wish my wife would do that for me.

Lol i read phillys post wrong too thinking another one? Lol.

 

[PhillyGuy13]

Sorry guys need a sarcasm font I guess lol.
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[larry.gray]

Sorry guys need a sarcasm font I guess lol.
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Nah, it was easy to get for the people who fully read what you posted. The skimming readers are the ones that had trouble.

 

[martyc47]

I don't mean this in a rude way, but that's a bit of a generalization, and incorrect as well.
Appearance and attractiveness are top of the list for many women. Age is a bit more flexible, if the man is still looking good.

I meant comparatively. Those things are MORE important to men than women. That doesn't mean that women don't value those things.

Sometimes generalizations contain much truth. And the things we are willing to admit and say don't always go along with what we won't say and actually do. How many women (and men) say they just want someone "nice" while actively seeking out attention from people who are exactly opposite of the type they claim to prefer? Many.

My comment was in response to some claim about women actively seeking to replace their men with younger, hotter ones to the same degree that men do to them. All I was saying was that men and women are (yes, generally) different in this regard. Yes, men are more likely to place youth and beauty above all else, consciously and subconsciously.

And the second part of my comment, was regarding the ways straight men compete or eye competition. I'm not hanging around getting jealous that some dude has prettier eyelashes or his highlights look fabulous. But I do notice when he gets a promotion, or some other career/status recognition or monetary reward, or throws around serious weight in the gym.

When it comes to women, we want Pretty Young Things. Your career accomplishments and such probably aren't going to make our erections harder. At least not as much as working on your ass will.

For the most part, the looks bar is set fairly low for men, provided we offer other things. By that I don't mean that men should be lazy and sloppy and fat. I just mean that most men who care a little bit about health, shower and groom themselves, wear clean clothes, and maintain a healthy weight, while carrying themselves with the right posture and attitude, are not going to be out-classed on looks alone.

ETA: Sorry, PhillyGuy. I hope you are doing well, and I think you probably have your situation under control.

 

[CouldItBeSo]

Sorry martyc47 but I think you are living in a Hollywood fake lala land where every old and ugly guy gets young and attractive women. They do this on purpose, just check the ages of main characters and the females are almost always 10-20 years or more younger. Doesn't work that way in reality. Maybe we can slowly get rid of that illusion when Hollywood fades into history where it belongs.

 

[LongWalk]

I also agree that Mach is a top poster in terms of intellectual insight. I am sure that brains are also a deal closer for men who want mate with women. Money and power also raise a man's status.

I think a PI on the business trip is a very good move. Arguments against the PI are cost. Also, it is entirely possible that nothing will happen OM may be busy and not show. So an inconclusive result is also entirely possible. Furthermore, PI can fail. If you tail someone around, restaurants and hotels, you can lose them.

 

[CouldItBeSo]

I also agree that Mach is a top poster in terms of intellectual insight. I am sure that brains are also a deal closer for men who want mate with women. Money and power also raise a man's status.

I think a PI on the business trip is a very good move. Arguments against the PI are cost. Also, it is entirely possible that nothing will happen OM may be busy and not show. So an inconclusive result is also entirely possible. Furthermore, PI can fail. If you tail someone around, restaurants and hotels, you can lose them.

Actually, in the article he posted the women judged the masculinity only based on facial features (jaw, chin and brow). Intellect, money and other features had no impact on their attractiveness. So Machie here kinda shot his own theory down with that link. Also, remember it's possible to be highly intellectual but totally off-putting socially. Without social skills you are nothing.

 

[Machiavelli]

Actually, in the article he posted the women judged the masculinity only based on facial features (jaw, chin and brow). Intellect, money and other features had no impact on their attractiveness. So Machie here kinda shot his own theory down with that link.

No, he didn't. There are many studies and many links to them. I'll sum them up, just for you: be handsome, be young, be rich, have a great Vee torso, kick ass in front of the women, be a rock star, etc. Which one would you like to read first?

Also, remember it's possible to be highly intellectual but totally off-putting socially. Without social skills you are nothing.

Once a quy's IQ is over 150, there is a tendency to be unattractive, fortunately I just missed it by THAT much.

 

[weightlifter]

Arguments for a PI on the next two trips are easy.

Peace of mind. If she is clean on those two I would skip to the 4th. If that is clean with no contact I would skip to the 7th. We are now 3 years out.

 

[Refuse to be played]

Why can't he do all the 'do the better husband' stuff and hire a PI and/or spy app? Better safe than sorry IMO.

 

[Machiavelli]

Why can't he do all the 'do the better husband' stuff and hire a PI and/or spy app? Better safe than sorry IMO.

Intel is required. No way around it.

 

[weightlifter]

Knock wood, At least I think this guy has a shot. Depends how persistent Kurt is. Im hoping bored and chasing other pvssy.

I really wanna see someone win lately.

 

[CouldItBeSo]

No, he didn't. There are many studies and many links to them. I'll sum them up, just for you: be handsome, be young, be rich, have a great Vee torso, kick ass in front of the women, be a rock star, etc. Which one would you like to read first?



Once a quy's IQ is over 150, there is a tendency to be unattractive, fortunately I just missed it by THAT much.

Here's the link by you to the article:

As for proof, Google is your friend. But here's one on the house to get you started: When Fertile, Women Want Manly Men.

Quote from that article:

The men's photos were rated for attractiveness and measured for masculinity. (A strong jaw, chin and brow are masculine traits.)

"What we found was that, indeed, women who are with less facially masculine men — so more feminine men — they're the ones showing a shift toward men other than their partner,"

A man's intelligence, on the other hand, made no difference in his woman's wandering eye.

Seems you are disagreeing with the article you linked. No reason to go to the gym; just have a "masculine" face. Chin and jaw implants and new eyebrows. :rofl:

 

[martyc47]

Sorry martyc47 but I think you are living in a Hollywood fake lala land where every old and ugly guy gets young and attractive women. They do this on purpose, just check the ages of main characters and the females are almost always 10-20 years or more younger. Doesn't work that way in reality. Maybe we can slowly get rid of that illusion when Hollywood fades into history where it belongs.

Never said anything even CLOSE to that. In Holywood I think it's more about old guys getting young dudes, anyway- not that I know much about Hollywood.

This would be like me saying that YOU are living in a fake world where old ladies marry young, attractive men. And that mostly doesn't happen. Oh, that's right. It does- when they are gay, using them for money, and/or green card, or unattractive guys who are glammed up for books and Hollywood. The reality is a lot closer to what I described than (the fictionalized) How Stella Got Her Groove Back or Eat, Pray, Love.

ETA:
I also think there's some confusion and mixing up in these arguments when it comes to ovulation-time partners and ONS things v. relationships. And of course there are a lot of in-betweens. It's possible to be the right combination of beta and alpha to be a LTR and keep your partner from straying. It's not all lame beta providers being cheated on with super alpha studs.