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Here is the deal. Take her ****ing phone. Find someone to crack it. Time to grow a pair and take action. She is running the table on you.

Next....EXPOSURE!...POSOMs wife, your family and close friends. She is your enemy right now. I know it is hard to grasp this concept, but time to get real and scorch her world. Blow it up! Ask her to leave. Lastly....180!

Be a man.
 
She needs to know where you are at. Tell her in plain English that her actions are leading you to seek legal advice for a formal
separation. Text the OM, tell him his actions toward your wife is unacceptable and is to cease forth with.
You don’t need her permission. Let her friends and family know she is having at a minimum an EA.
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When a woman says They’re not in love with you anymore, my e Perrin day has been that the only possible avenue is to move on, ignoring the horror/pain that inevitably comes with it, and such that will likely last a year, not pass fully for at least a couple after no contact.
Realize that it’s not you she’s texting daylight to dark, it’s him. Yes on her mind, not you. She is no longer your wife. Make it that way AFTER a lengthy discussion with your attorney.

I’m sorry. I say that knowing the pain you’re going through.

going to counseling, no contact with OM, etc etc. the fact is (from my experience) is that once a woman falls out of love with a man, it never comes back. The only people that will tell you it can are people that have something to gain By your efforts.

One person can’t save a marriage. It’s clear she’s only with you now for the security you provide.
May advice: End it and find another woman to love. Once humptyfalls, its pointless to try to put it back together.
 
coming to this late but this is the bit that is bothering me.
She tells you you are just a friend.
She tells you he is just a friend.
Now you know where you stand.
 
She might as well have asked you for a divorce because making you an option pretty much does that anyway...
 
She needs to know where you are at. Tell her in plain English that her actions are leading you to seek legal advice for a formal
separation. Text the OM, tell him his actions toward your wife is unacceptable and is to cease forth with.
You don’t need her permission. Let her friends and family know she is having at a minimum an EA.
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i agree in principal, but I think he needs to get an exit plan without her knowledge. Tipping her off he’s going to see an attorney isn’t wise.
He needs to get a plan in place and start carrying it out. Undoubtedly she either has already, or is about to start working on her own exit strategy.
 
I'm jumping in a little late on this thread but I'll give you my opinion on the matter as a woman who's H of 14 years cheated on me throughout the marriage and adamantly denied it.

You cannot control what she does at all. She will cheat if that's what she has her mind set to do. You can drive yourself mad checking texts, asking for passwords, chasing her behavior down this rabbit hole but she's clearly having an EA that will probably lead to more.

If it were me, again in this awful place, I'd consult an attorney, the best one in your county and get your ducks in a row now and then put up a large guard around your heart. Get very cold emotionally so she knows that you know what's going on and don't back down from what you know, no matter how she diminishes her actions. Don't do your usual loving things such as telling her how beautiful she is. Don't beg for her affection for her to be honest with you because she isn't. She's lying and she's found that thing that she thinks is exciting now.

There is nothing wrong with you, unless you were abusive and totally inattentive, I think she would have done this to you sooner or later. Don't beat yourself up and blame yourself for her actions. She's fallen for the "grass is greener" but greener grass often has more manure. They are not "just friends" and you know this in your gut so start trusting your instincts and not her word anymore.

I'm so sorry. Nothing hurts like betrayal. But it hurts worse if you allow yourself to be treated like a fool. Don't beg for someone that doesn't choose you. Ever.
 
All sex has been cutoff, which isn't a game breaker, sure I love sex and the chance to connect with my spouse but its not like I can't wait. What is frustrating about it is I did absolutely nothing to earn it, in fact it should be me blocking her from sex.
OM is confirmed just a friend, form texts that I've seen.......................................... that she deserves a friend. .................. What do you guys think?
I think you need to change your name from No-MoreMr.NiceGuy to I'maDoorMatForMyWife!

30 something guy texting your wife is not "just a friend". Maybe that's all he can be right now, but given the chance they are going to be very "close" friends! Quit being such an idiot about this. Lot's of us much older are telling you exactly how it is. Nobody writes this to a "just" friend!! “you’re so flirty and sweet, you’re in my head and I need to know how you feel about me” You REALLY think that's just a friend!?!?

She cut off all sex? Sorry, marriage over, grow a set and move on. You have nothing but frustration ahead of you. (Of course, I haven't heard her side of the story. I mean, maybe you have a low sex drive and she is frustrated, maybe you're crappy in bed and she is frustrated, maybe she needs more romance, maybe you're a grump all the time, maybe you're just too namby-pamby for her, I don't know, we are just hearing one side of the story. Regardless, she is looking to move on.)
 
Is he on Facebook, Instagram, Tumbler etc? Is he married? If not where did you get that info?
Get both books listed in my signature below. The primer is not a manual, it’s about the relationship.
Just because you have proof of friendship from the texts, doesn’t mean there not using one of many cheater apps.
180 all the way at this point.
Children?
Horse folks seem to have a lot of infidelity problems.
 
Says we need to build up from being friends, in my own marriage, in my own house. All sex has been cutoff
The honeymoon is over my man and I think you know it. The chick has lost romantic interest in you and it cannot be "built up from being friends". Whether she even knows it or not, she stringing you along until she's comfortable pulling the eject lever. If it were me in your shoes, I'd tell her she needs to make other arrangements; that "friends" just ain't gonna cut it. I ain't never settled for less than the full chick and I never will.
I want you to think back over the years of the guys you've known that was "willing to wait" on a chick only to discover somebody else was f-ing them. If I had a dollar for every one I knew, I could pay for a months worth of groceries.
 
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I haven't been on here in some time, but reviewing, I've gotten some excellent advice thank you all who took interest. UPDATE: I was asked to leave a couple of weeks ago so I obliged because I honestly didn't want to be home anyway, has nothing to do with taking a weak position, I needed some space myself and didn't want to be home. After a week I was asked to come home where I've slept on the couch. Lots of things have transpired since my last posting. I did some digging and tons of research about what is happening and why. I couldn't get into the phone as much as I tried so I waited that out, she got relaxed with me home so I swiped it from my kid while he was playing on it and synced it back up with my computer so I have text access now. Installed keylogger on the computer and got access to her side of the phone records, we have Fi so I had to have her access to see the logs. Downloaded the logs and counted out all the messages everyday from April when they started texting instead of facebook, to now.

Some days were almost 300 texts in a day, sometimes not ending until 2am. I was able to go back a couple weeks, up until the weekend I came home, everything before that was deleted. She swore no more deleting of texts when I came back home, no more hiding anything, which has been two weeks and the texts and phone records matched. Until Thursday...I was keeping an eye on the texts while playing with my son, an inappropriate text came up but I was afraid to open it in case she got smart and wondered why her texts were showing read when she hadn't read them.

Lost my opportunity because when I checked the next morning it showed 46 missing text messages. So I asked her if she had been keeping with our agreement of not deleting texts anymore, to which she said she hadn't been. Ok so now I'm livid and I know something is up so I pressed the matter saying if nothing was wrong with her "just a friend", then prove it to me, show me the deleted texts. I see her telling the "friend", he wants to see our deleted texts. Nothing goes on for a few close to a hour, then she texts back and admits to being in an EA, and lays out the reasons why (I haven't been happy, haven't been there emotionally, have been continuously depressed. On my side of it, yes I haven't been myself which is why Im going to counseling.

She told me about some of their inappropriate conversations, to which she still refers to them as "joking". TBH Im glad she told me, but it doesn't change the fact that there is so much left that I don't know about. So I'm trying to just be patient and wait it out and see what happens. I'm still activly monitering the texts.
 
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I'm jumping in a little late on this thread but I'll give you my opinion on the matter as a woman who's H of 14 years cheated on me throughout the marriage and adamantly denied it.

You cannot control what she does at all. She will cheat if that's what she has her mind set to do. You can drive yourself mad checking texts, asking for passwords, chasing her behavior down this rabbit hole but she's clearly having an EA that will probably lead to more.

If it were me, again in this awful place, I'd consult an attorney, the best one in your county and get your ducks in a row now and then put up a large guard around your heart. Get very cold emotionally so she knows that you know what's going on and don't back down from what you know, no matter how she diminishes her actions. Don't do your usual loving things such as telling her how beautiful she is. Don't beg for her affection for her to be honest with you because she isn't. She's lying and she's found that thing that she thinks is exciting now.

There is nothing wrong with you, unless you were abusive and totally inattentive, I think she would have done this to you sooner or later. Don't beat yourself up and blame yourself for her actions. She's fallen for the "grass is greener" but greener grass often has more manure. They are not "just friends" and you know this in your gut so start trusting your instincts and not her word anymore.

I'm so sorry. Nothing hurts like betrayal. But it hurts worse if you allow yourself to be treated like a fool. Don't beg for someone that doesn't choose you. Ever.
Thanks, I found this very helpful and insightful. I'm considering my options. I did start the 180 after her admission, asked her to leave for awhile so I feel like I have the upper hand. As much as I love her and want to trust her, I won't stop monitoring until I'm satisfied the EA is really no more. They continue to talk regardless of my feelings, but no missing texts and texts don't seem inappropriate in anyway besides the occasional "he said this," and complaining about me, but hasn't been much and TBH the conversations seem pretty one sided.
 
Why do you want to stay in any home when she is blatantly disrespecting you?

this isn’t your wife - this is an evil cheater! Treat her as such! Make HER move now! Make sure you expose the OM and your wife to everyone you know!

quit making it easy for her to cheat and treat you terribly.

file for divorce ASAP!
 
Thanks, I found this very helpful and insightful. I'm considering my options. I did start the 180 after her admission, asked her to leave for awhile so I feel like I have the upper hand. As much as I love her and want to trust her, I won't stop monitoring until I'm satisfied the EA is really no more. They continue to talk regardless of my feelings, but no missing texts and texts don't seem inappropriate in anyway besides the occasional "he said this," and complaining about me, but hasn't been much and TBH the conversations seem pretty one sided.
Here's the thing -- the EA IS STILL going on. They are STILL communicating. It has to be a hard NO CONTACT AT ALL EVER, or the affair will continue. Her blaming YOU is BS. Yes you may have had issues in the marriage, but SHE is the one who cheated. If she didn't like it, she should have divorced you, not cheated.
 
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Here's the thing -- the EA IS STILL going on. They are STILL communicating. It has to be a hard NO CONTACT AT ALL EVER, or the affair will continue. Her blaming YOU is BS. Yes you may have had issues in the marriage, but SHE is the one who cheated. If she didn't like it, she should have divorced you, not cheated.
I agree, I do need to put the fist down and force NC. I have never been in this situation but from researching and reading the posts here I've been able to recognize how a cheater, even an emotional cheater acts. It's been typical blame shifting, deny, trickle truth the whole nine yards.
 
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