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Here's a couple of thoughts to reply to your wife:

1 - People with nothing to hide - hide nothing.

2 - Every spouse has a right to feel safe from infidelity. Your wife's secret texting and her statement that she's not in love with you - is a big fail on her part. Now she must do whatever you need to restore trust.

3 - As her spouse all those texts and emotional energy spent on the OM - should have been directed to you.
 
You can not over react to her texting. Your wife thinks she's in love with the OM and she's addicted to texting and will not be able to stop contact easily or on her own. You are going to have to rock her world to pull her out of her fog.

Texting is absolutely a serious threat to your marriage.

Studies show that texting is addictive. Studies show that texting triggers the same parts of the brain as face to face conversation - and triggers the same kind of 'feel good' response/high as cocaine.
 
Do not do the "Pick Me Dance" or cry or beg (or respond to their outrage & counter attacks). It doesn’t work (just the opposite). Experience shows that you’ll be viewed as ‘weak’. In their current state of mind, weakness is interpreted as a free pass to continue the affair. And she is having an emotional affair that is a slippery slope towards sex.

Do not respond to the attempt to blame shift or claim an invasion of privacy or controlling her. She can pick her own friends - just not another man. Every marriage has issues but she is 100% responsible for her decision to cope by turning to the OM.

It's unfair for her to compare you to the OM. A spouse (and marriage life in general), can never compete with the emotional excitement of an AP, the high from the AP’s compliments, feeling young again, and the false mental image of the ‘perfect’ fantasy lover/partner created by your spouse. The OM has all the excitement of a new car vs a 11 yo family van (that's you).

In order for her to take you seriously, she has to believe you will divorce her (bluff if necessary) rather than tolerate her relationship with the OM.

1 - She must go 100% NC. Why? because every time she texts or even sees him on the street her feelings re-ignite for him.

NC is the consequence she brought on herself for allowing herself to get involved and sending inappropriate texts with the OM.

2 - She must provide full transparency with her phone. Why? because she's been deceitful by deleting texts that would make you jealous. If the texts would make you jealous - then they are inappropriate!

3 - This is very emotional. If you have difficulty verbalizing your thoughts to her , then write them down.
 
I suggest you both read the book: "Not Just Friends" by Dr Shirley Glass

It's an easy read that based on research of couples that experienced infidelity (and how it happened).
"Good" people have affairs and it's important to learn from the mistakes of others.

This books identifies certain behaviors/friendships that place the marriage at a high risk for infidelity.

After reading this book, your wife will have a difficult time defending her secret texting, deleting texts because she thinks/knows they're inappropriate - and allowing herself in a situation where she's basically comparing you to another man or allowing herself to have an obsessive emotional connection with another man.
 
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I apologize, I was out of town over the weekend and was unable to answer. As of now I have implemented some of the 180 techniques, she thinks she has the upper hand however. Says we need to build up from being friends, in my own marriage, in my own house. All sex has been cutoff, which isn't a game breaker, sure I love sex and the chance to connect with my spouse but its not like I can't wait. What is frustrating about it is I did absolutely nothing to earn it, in fact it should be me blocking her from sex. OM is confirmed just a friend, form texts that I've seen, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still locked out of the phone. I have looked for numerous ways to get into the phone or even restore onto her old phone, but sms backup doesn't see anything in the google drive even though there is a backup there. What gets me is that despite being put into the "friend zone" by her OM, her texting hasn't changed with him in the slightest, other than she no longer texts after about 9 with him (I have access to the phone records). She even told me the other day before I left for the weekend, that he isn't going anywhere.

I'm in a strange spot here guys. On the one hand, I am a deeply compassionate and empathetic person, this carries into my role as husband. Sure I have been cut off from her emotionally due to many of my own issues (obviously not fair to her), but I believe unlike some here, that she deserves a friend. On the other, I feel like I've been clearly told she won't drop contact. I'm not a jerk or controlling in anyway, so part of me thinks she's wanting me to cross that line as if to taunt me, bring me it to be ambushed? I have deep insomnia now, I sleep a couple of hours each night and awake wondering how I can see the conversation going on, and wondering why she hasn't given me the details I want to know. What do you guys think?
 
Is OM married? What do you know about him? Do you have his contact info?

Normally I would not recommend contacting the OM. But in your case, I think I would send him a message and ask if he is in love with your wife. you need to shake things up a bit. You are in a state of limbo because of her and her obsession with him. No marriage, no future, just waiting on her to act. Your marriage is dead at this point. Her love has been transferred to him and you are left with nothing but a room mate. Tell your wife that you want her to be happy so you will file for divorce then she can go to him.

She is choosing him over you, your marriage and your family.

Have some self respect. You are getting no respect from her.
 
No opposite sex friends in a marriage, especially ones that are new. Hard stop, no way. She can go find some girlfriends.

She has a serious crush on this guy, big time. She is smitten and would leave you for him tomorrow if he was interested. Sounds like he likes talking to her and maybe appreciates the ego-boost, but isn't interested in her romantically, or actually has some morals about messing with a married woman.

Cut it off, or end the marriage. This "friendship" and your marriage CANNOT co-exist.
 
Your wife is chasing another man.

Most men cannot not run fast enough to get away from a woman chasing them.

I am guessing that your wife will catch him soon if she hasn't caught him already. He was already being "flirty and sweet" when you found that message. It is obvious enough just from that one message about him being in her head that she wants him.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone. I apologize, I was out of town over the weekend and was unable to answer. As of now I have implemented some of the 180 techniques, she thinks she has the upper hand however. Says we need to build up from being friends, in my own marriage, in my own house. All sex has been cutoff, which isn't a game breaker, sure I love sex and the chance to connect with my spouse but its not like I can't wait. What is frustrating about it is I did absolutely nothing to earn it, in fact it should be me blocking her from sex. OM is confirmed just a friend, form texts that I've seen, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still locked out of the phone. I have looked for numerous ways to get into the phone or even restore onto her old phone, but sms backup doesn't see anything in the google drive even though there is a backup there. What gets me is that despite being put into the "friend zone" by her OM, her texting hasn't changed with him in the slightest, other than she no longer texts after about 9 with him (I have access to the phone records). She even told me the other day before I left for the weekend, that he isn't going anywhere.

I'm in a strange spot here guys. On the one hand, I am a deeply compassionate and empathetic person, this carries into my role as husband. Sure I have been cut off from her emotionally due to many of my own issues (obviously not fair to her), but I believe unlike some here, that she deserves a friend. On the other, I feel like I've been clearly told she won't drop contact. I'm not a jerk or controlling in anyway, so part of me thinks she's wanting me to cross that line as if to taunt me, bring me it to be ambushed? I have deep insomnia now, I sleep a couple of hours each night and awake wondering how I can see the conversation going on, and wondering why she hasn't given me the details I want to know. What do you guys think?
What do we think? Really?

You know what everyone, or most think. YOUR WIFE IS HAVING AN AFFAIR and you are allowing it.

Further, I completely disagree that they have not had sex, please. And she cut you off???

Are you for really OK with all of this. You are compasisonate... WTF?

Look man, you need to file for divorce ASAP. Call a lawyer now, they all need work right now.

You are being lied to, and you are falling for it.

Please wake up...
 
What would it take her to do for you to say that THAT is the last straw and file?

good luck
Stay strong
And no matter what you do, make sure you are always able to look at yourself in the mirror.
 
OM is confirmed just a friend, form texts that I've seen, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still locked out of the phone.

Nope, you haven’t confirmed a thing. I’m sure your wife’s told you this. Read what you’ve posted below

I have looked for numerous ways to get into the phone or even restore onto her old phone, but sms backup doesn't see anything in the google drive even though there is a backup there. What gets me is that despite being put into the "friend zone" by her OM, her texting hasn't changed with him in the slightest, other than she no longer texts after about 9 with him (I have access to the phone records). She even told me the other day before I left for the weekend, that he isn't going anywhere.

Were just friends is the biggest lie told.

I'm in a strange spot here guys. On the one hand, I am a deeply compassionate and empathetic person, this carries into my role as husband. Sure I have been cut off from her emotionally due to many of my own issues (obviously not fair to her), but I believe unlike some here, that she deserves a friend. On the other, I feel like I've been clearly told she won't drop contact. I'm not a jerk or controlling in anyway, so part of me thinks she's wanting me to cross that line as if to taunt me, bring me it to be ambushed? I have deep insomnia now, I sleep a couple of hours each night and awake wondering how I can see the conversation going on, and wondering why she hasn't given me the details I want to know. What do you guys think?
It’s not strange but pretty typical. You just don’t want to believe it.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone. I apologize, I was out of town over the weekend and was unable to answer. As of now I have implemented some of the 180 techniques, she thinks she has the upper hand however. Says we need to build up from being friends, in my own marriage, in my own house. All sex has been cutoff, which isn't a game breaker, sure I love sex and the chance to connect with my spouse but its not like I can't wait. What is frustrating about it is I did absolutely nothing to earn it, in fact it should be me blocking her from sex. OM is confirmed just a friend, form texts that I've seen, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still locked out of the phone. I have looked for numerous ways to get into the phone or even restore onto her old phone, but sms backup doesn't see anything in the google drive even though there is a backup there. What gets me is that despite being put into the "friend zone" by her OM, her texting hasn't changed with him in the slightest, other than she no longer texts after about 9 with him (I have access to the phone records). She even told me the other day before I left for the weekend, that he isn't going anywhere.

I'm in a strange spot here guys. On the one hand, I am a deeply compassionate and empathetic person, this carries into my role as husband. Sure I have been cut off from her emotionally due to many of my own issues (obviously not fair to her), but I believe unlike some here, that she deserves a friend. On the other, I feel like I've been clearly told she won't drop contact. I'm not a jerk or controlling in anyway, so part of me thinks she's wanting me to cross that line as if to taunt me, bring me it to be ambushed? I have deep insomnia now, I sleep a couple of hours each night and awake wondering how I can see the conversation going on, and wondering why she hasn't given me the details I want to know. What do you guys think?
She is in control. If you don't successfully establish and convey that you set the terms, you'll always be responding to her terms and not her responding to yours. Huge difference.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone. I apologize, I was out of town over the weekend and was unable to answer. As of now I have implemented some of the 180 techniques, she thinks she has the upper hand however. Says we need to build up from being friends, in my own marriage, in my own house. All sex has been cutoff, which isn't a game breaker, sure I love sex and the chance to connect with my spouse but its not like I can't wait. What is frustrating about it is I did absolutely nothing to earn it, in fact it should be me blocking her from sex. OM is confirmed just a friend, form texts that I've seen, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still locked out of the phone. I have looked for numerous ways to get into the phone or even restore onto her old phone, but sms backup doesn't see anything in the google drive even though there is a backup there. What gets me is that despite being put into the "friend zone" by her OM, her texting hasn't changed with him in the slightest, other than she no longer texts after about 9 with him (I have access to the phone records). She even told me the other day before I left for the weekend, that he isn't going anywhere.

I'm in a strange spot here guys. On the one hand, I am a deeply compassionate and empathetic person, this carries into my role as husband. Sure I have been cut off from her emotionally due to many of my own issues (obviously not fair to her), but I believe unlike some here, that she deserves a friend. On the other, I feel like I've been clearly told she won't drop contact. I'm not a jerk or controlling in anyway, so part of me thinks she's wanting me to cross that line as if to taunt me, bring me it to be ambushed? I have deep insomnia now, I sleep a couple of hours each night and awake wondering how I can see the conversation going on, and wondering why she hasn't given me the details I want to know. What do you guys think?
I think that she has you snowed over here.

Her story simply does not compute, and you may think you have the upper hand here, but you don't. The fact that 'he isn't going anywhere' even though your marriage is falling apart tells me everything I need to know.

Start the divorce/separation process. Start acting single. This is far worse than it was last week.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone. I apologize, I was out of town over the weekend and was unable to answer. As of now I have implemented some of the 180 techniques, she thinks she has the upper hand however. Says we need to build up from being friends, in my own marriage, in my own house. All sex has been cutoff, which isn't a game breaker, sure I love sex and the chance to connect with my spouse but its not like I can't wait. What is frustrating about it is I did absolutely nothing to earn it, in fact it should be me blocking her from sex. OM is confirmed just a friend, form texts that I've seen, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still locked out of the phone. I have looked for numerous ways to get into the phone or even restore onto her old phone, but sms backup doesn't see anything in the google drive even though there is a backup there. What gets me is that despite being put into the "friend zone" by her OM, her texting hasn't changed with him in the slightest, other than she no longer texts after about 9 with him (I have access to the phone records). She even told me the other day before I left for the weekend, that he isn't going anywhere.

I'm in a strange spot here guys. On the one hand, I am a deeply compassionate and empathetic person, this carries into my role as husband. Sure I have been cut off from her emotionally due to many of my own issues (obviously not fair to her), but I believe unlike some here, that she deserves a friend. On the other, I feel like I've been clearly told she won't drop contact. I'm not a jerk or controlling in anyway, so part of me thinks she's wanting me to cross that line as if to taunt me, bring me it to be ambushed? I have deep insomnia now, I sleep a couple of hours each night and awake wondering how I can see the conversation going on, and wondering why she hasn't given me the details I want to know. What do you guys think?
Good God, Nomore!! You are actually putting up with this crap! You sound like you are rug sweeping! File Now!! Get some backbone!
 
This is one situation where you throw your compassionate side out the door and understand fully well she IS THE ENEMY!
She has every intention ruin of destroying your life! Stop being so nice! Protect yourself and kids (if you have them).

do not respond to anything she says except with yes or no answers!

she wants your approval to screw other men - do not be nice about her being messed up!

just divorce her. She isn’t going to change!
 
She is giving him all the time and attention that should be going into your marriage. And telling you she is doing it to Protect you? BS!
She is monkey branching. Making sure she has a firm grip on the next branch (OM) before she lets go of the one she has(you).

Doesn't sound like there is much to save and she is giving you just enough to keep you around......for now. Until she is sure the man she wants is willing to take her.
 
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