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If you are DoneGone's xww, all I can say is how do you live with yourself and what you did to that man? Cheating is one thing, gaslighting is horrific torture, but trying to turn his daughters against him?? What kind of person does that? There is a level of evil that people should not cross and you've stepped wayyyyy over too many of them.

I hope you are in therapy because you are definitely broken.

And I am sure Done Gone is hurting, but at least it appears he has traded up.
 
Wishes, I feel for you, just as I feel for your husband.

I think you should move on with your life, because I don't think he will ever come back. This is because of the following reasons. This is based on what I believe to be his thread.

1) He completely doted on you and worshipped you. It is much harder for someone who idolized his wife as being perfect to come to terms with her not being perfect. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

2) He is very strong emotionally, and has an incredibly strong moral compass.

He is unusually strong. He subsumed all of that while he was with you, and you thought you knew him better than he knew himself, but I think that was a misperception.

I don't think you, or anyone else, can bring him to bend. He would have bent for you for anything before the affair, but that was under 100% different circumstances. It sounds like he still loves you. But you are no longer his wife, and frankly, you stopped being his wife the moment you slept with your AP. Men like that don't bend their principles even for someone who they love when she stops being his wife.

Some people can forgive affairs. For others, there is no question os forgiveness, because the marriage dissolves the moment the partner cheats, and there is no choice to be made - the die has been cast.

3) He is dating a much more attractive person, and he's 45, well-off, and seemingly attractive. At that age, men are still very desirable. He's learning that he is in high demand.

The only possibility that might bring him around, the only thing that brought me around (but I don't think most other people see things the same way) was a book called Sperm Wars. After reading that, I came to understand the biological imperative that rears its ugly head when women are finished raising one set of children and her biological clock is running out. But for you, I think it may be too late.
 
I have already lost everything.

Sometimes selfishness combined with foolishness explains everything.

Dont try to dig too deep here.

If your husband is already connecting with another woman he is not comming back anytime soon if ever, best to just accept that.

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Guilt is overrated. Don't let those who are suffering here make you pay for sins you didn't commit.

You can't unring a bell. You screwed up, bad. You know it and it cost you. Cause and effect. Learn your lessons and treat yourself and your next partner better; communicate more.

I wish you happiness and love in future. Everyone deserves this chance, including your ex going forward. Forget him.
 
He left me a year ago and I have believed this entire time he would forgive me and take me back. I thought I knew him better than he knew himself. He never gave me any hope that my affair was forgivable, however, throughout the years he had conditioned me to believe he could not live without me. I truly believed he could not live without me. I thought he would give me another chance. I figured that if I got myself into therapy, proved to him how incredibly sorry I was, did the right things, said the right words, that eventually he would give me a chance to prove how so very sorry I am for what I did. That hasn’t happened. Obviously, he can live without me after-all, however, I do not believe I can live without him.

I think sometimes that I literally cannot live another day. It never leaves my mind and there are times that the pain is so great that I just fall apart. Sometimes, out of nowhere my eyes will well up and I began sobbing. Sometimes uncontrollably and anywhere; in a restaurant, at home, at the grocery store, at work, I will suddenly just fall apart. I had a perfect, wonderful and blessed life that for some reason I felt I had to completely trash. My husband was perfect in every way imaginable. He was faithful true and kind to the fullest extent.
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The most awful, heartbreaking and terrifying thing I remember about that day was witnessing his love and care for me turn into pure hatred and distain. I hate me too. I hate every day. I am in therapy and although I have a little more insight into why I did the things I did, it certainly does not excuse my behavior. My now X-husband is a beautiful person, a wonderful man and a great father and yet, I cheated on him anyway. I do not know what I was thinking and I still do not know what is wrong with me. I have always loved him so much. I adore him and know that I do not want to live this life without him. How could I have hurt him the way I did. I do not know how to fix what I’ve broken and I do not even know what is broken within me. One of my therapist said it was my attempt at self-medicating a traumatic childhood. If that be the case, I am here to say that it did not work, it only left me feeling angry, empty and filled with more self-loathing. My upbringing was inconsistent and horrifically verbally and physically abusive particularly from my daddy; so yes, I have serious daddy issues, but I never had issues with my husband.
...My now XH said he could make no promises. that the divorce is something he had to do for now and that who knows what the future might hold. He told me to live my life and that one day he might be knocking on my door; or not.

My question to you is very selfish, I know. Most or all here have experienced betrayal. After hearing my story, and considering your experiences with this forum, do you think there is much chance for me to get another chance? Hope was wonderful this last year, but since the divorce, I find it very difficult to hold on to hope.

Please, try not to bash me. I have already lost everything. There is nothing you could say to me that I do not already know. I am asking for something constructive to help me either, move on with my life, or continue in this holding pattern indefinitely. I would so appreciate any and all advice because I truly do not know how to move forward.
Wishes, your post is just heartbreaking.

First, regarding the part I underlined, my response to your therapist is that's a fine start, that might indeed be why you did it, but since you can never change your childhood what you need to know is how to prevent yourself from ever doing it again.

You can't undo the affair but you can learn from it and be a wonderful wife to someone else.

What I strongly urge you to do is get and read the book "Surviving and Affair" immediately. And read everything on this page (it's the website by the author of the book) Steps to Recover from an affair/infidelity in marriage

It may help you understand your actions and help you know how to prevent a repeat.

My suspicion is that your H is gone, but who knows. One thing in the "Surviving an Affair" book is a checklist of precautions every couple should have in place to make sure an affair can't happen in the first place. The fact that you don't know why you cheated would be unnerving to any prospective partner, so how can your ex trust you to take you back? Well if you put these precautions in place he may feel more secure.

Regardless of what can/will happen with your ex, your life is not over. You have learned a valuable lesson, and with the right precautions you can move forward and find someone else just as wonderful as your ex to love and share your life with, and know you will not repeat the mistake.

Please read the link I gave you and get the book. I would not wait for my ex if I was you. You waiting and pining for him is just not going to be attractive to him even though you are the one "in the wrong."

I would try to keep the lines of communication open with him, start working on myself following the advise in the book, and know that you can have a very happy future - maybe with your ex, but if not, with someone else. You attracted and picked a good one the first time, you can do it again.
 
I don't know why posters have suddenly come to believe this is Done Gone's WW.....but I would agree that IF it is, then Wishes needs to come to terms with the fact that her BH is never coming back.

The sheer level of sh*t talking and disrespect that DG's WW's POSOM expressed in the conversations he recovered and the fact that she STILL continued to have an A with a turd who constantly called her BH every vile and insulting name he could while posing as a more 'alpha' man who really knew how to screw her unlike her 'loser' BH.

It was a very happy moment when poser POS went after DG for exposing the A to his BW.....and got his a** handed to him and then arrested when the cops showed up.

Add that to the fact that his WW tried to get their grown daughters involved to pressure him to back down on getting her passwords....and blaming DG for the end of the M because he was paranoid and had anger issues.

GAME OVER.

Wishes, if this is indeed your story, then you need to find a way to move on.

I feel for you that your happy M and life have been irrevocably destroyed by the A, and I understand the heartbreak that must bring to you.

But your BH is NOT coming back.
 
I doubt if her BH is actually Done Gone. DG has not yet filed, but getting ready to. Apparently, Wishes is actually divorced.
No....he posted an update a few days ago that his D went final in January and he actually was starting to date POSOM's xBW.

Still not sure why so many are convinced this must be DG's WW.

I'm not convinced it is for sure.

But if it is, then Wishes needs to begin to find a way to move on in her life and build herself into a better person for her next relationship (as I posted above).

Because DG isn't going back to his former M....I would bet money on that.
 
In case you haven't got it yet. This is all about sex.

Your husband ceased to interest you on a sexual level. You sent disgusting, filthy (and very sexy texts) and photos to this other man.
You bought burner phones, made new email address and gave this man everything. You sacrificed it all for this feeling.

You lied to have sex with this man
You lied again to have sex with him
You bought burner phones and hid to have sex with him
When the stakes were raised you had sex with him
Then you kept doing it.
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In your heart you know that you can never feel that way about your Ex Husband. He is your Husband. The Father of your children, Provider and the man of the house. He is and never will get you weak at the knees and changing underware in the middle of the day.

He knows this and that is why it is over for him.

It is about sex
 
I have zero sympathy for the OP.

She trashed her marriage and will probably be unhappy from now on. Thing is, she had it all before, and still wasn't happy or she wouldn't have banged the other man so long she got herself caught.

One thing I'll bet, as a betrayed spouse myself, is he sure as hell is not coming back to OP. She needs to accept that and move on to lower pastures.

Don't know why you did it, OP?
It's probably because you wanted some strange penis and secret excitement.
So you got it, and now you're still unhappy. I'll bet your husband is happier! You already know he can find contentment. Hopefully he'll find it again.
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I have already lost everything.
I dont think she loved her husband then, and I dont think she loves him still.

She lost her life and her male slave, thats why she is so sorry.

She has feelings for him, he is more like a beloved family pet to her, but a family pet would not have gotten in the way of her selfish lust. His bad luck.


Anyone remember the wayward wife sometime back who complained after getting dumped by her Husband and AP who said, "Now I don't have anyone to love me." Thats what we have here. No real remorse.
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You're not Ing. Ing is living in a cave on a mountain in China somewhere, conversing with the spirits.
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Off in the distance we hear the sound of voices in unison resounding a continuous deep, overlapping, prolonged, "Ooooooooohmmm". :grin2:
 
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I'm a believer in therapy too. It's helpful to find ones own soul and with that comes the possibility of becoming closer to other souls. And if there is a good to come from tragedy, it is that it brings the opportunity to find some depth of of own selves. So your parents were a mess and you get to inherit some chaotic behavior... join the club.

My wayward, her excuses... yeah okay. What she never did say was that she did it because it was fun, there was lust, she was horny. Duh. I suppose that's a self evident truth. So she says he was nothing like me, oh the sex wasn't all that. Sure... that's why she kept doing it. Even in denial I knew she had a woopty good time behind my back and from the way she put me off it was much more exciting than our affection.

So after she is like "why did I do it". Because it was fun and exciting! Sure her daddy was a little wacko but still she obviously and thoroughly enjoyed herself at my expense. No, her sex with her guy was more important than me. I was no competition, until I was gone. Don't deny that it would have been physically impossible to have intercourse if you weren't turned on. Bottom line is that is a big reason why it hurts. For me, it revealed how vulnerable I was to jealously... knowing that she had enjoyed her other more than she enjoyed me. And that's the way it is with the forbidden and somehow I knew that long before I read it here.

So you wish. I wish too. So you say you are giving up hope. My call is for you to go ahead with your life and allow your sparkle to return. Not give up hope and move on, but keep the hope; being that is what you want. What you are saying is that you are losing that thought of him reconciling with you, but you shouldn't lose that vision... don't lose your dream if you want it to come to be because your vision of that future makes it more likely that it can come to be.

We tried to make it work after but it was a total rug sweep and the wheels quickly came off. We are still friends though and I care. Your's wouldn't be a rug-sweep. You are totally willing; there is certainly a possibility that it can come to be.

Take care of yourself wishes and keep the door open. In the mean time... go ahead and let yourself back in. :wink2:
 
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