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What sort?
I got pregnant straight away with all three of my children so was extremely fertile but birth control always seemed to stop an unplanned one.
Maybe it depends on which one you use?.
Ortho Tricycline low- wife always had low BP and when she took full strength BC it would lower her pressure to point of passing out.
 
Isn’t it amazing that an adult female in 2025 has an “unintended” pregnancy? Maybe her original intent was to snag AP into marrying her.
Loads of pregnancies are unplanned. I don't get how people still don't use birth control.
I know multiple women who got pregnant while using various forms of birth control.
Forms of birth control failures: the pill, IUD, diaphragm + foam
All of these women were using as prescribed.
 
I know multiple women who got pregnant while using various forms of birth control.
Forms of birth control failures: the pill, IUD, diaphragm + foam
All of these women were using as prescribed.
Yes of course but there are also so many pregnancies due to no birth control being used.

It's interesting to me that couples of my parents generation who had children in the 50's almost all had just 2 children. Birth control was totally different then, many only had the diaphragm or similar yet they managed to avoid more children.

The only family I can think of around us in the mid to late 50's early 60's who had a big family, in this case 5 children, were RC.
Almost all of my friends at school had one or occasionally 2 siblings. I wonder how they did it?

As for my grandparents generation they seemed to generally have many more. Not sure if that was planned or not. Dad was one of 9
Mum one of 6, one died as a baby.

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I get the impression that his ex-wife is offering to abort the child as a 'deal sweetener' for reconciliation. Like she's ready and willing to make a Child Sacrifice to return to her old life.
Then she is even worse than he had portrayed. It does not matter the man she left her husband for dumped her because she is pregnant. He must never take her back under any circumstances. She is an evil woman never to be trusted will do anything to get her way. Do not and never do trust her again
 
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Did everyone miss this, or this was already known, and first time me reading it?
So, are you saying that the guy that your wife left you for is Hunter Biden, as in Joe Biden's son?
LOL no. That was a joke from a few weeks back. He's the "bad son" of the family so i started calling him that.
 
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Isn’t it amazing that an adult female in 2025 has an “unintended” pregnancy? Maybe her original intent was to snag AP into marrying her.
Couldn't say if it was. They were living together for 8 months, and the relationship was going on long before that. AFAIK she had every intention to marry him until she found out he was a dirtbag who cheated on her with other women. She told me they shared a "deep passionate love" or somesuch. To tell you the truth her being pregnant is a completely irrelevant side detail in this story. It changes nothing from my perspective. I'm sure one way or another she will be fine.
 
Isn’t it amazing that an adult female in 2025 has an “unintended” pregnancy? Maybe her original intent was to snag AP into marrying her.
I gather that you don't work in the medical field to be amazed by unintended pregnancies.
It happens all the time, not matter how careful you are, **** happens that interfere with the intended use of birth control methods.

The only 100% sure thing in this life is that you will eventually die.
 
I gather that you don't work in the medical field to be amazed by unintended pregnancies.
It happens all the time, not matter how careful you are, **** happens that interfere with the intended use of birth control methods.

The only 100% sure thing in this life is that you will eventually die.
And taxes... 😬

OP... You're handling this well. Have fun on your date Friday and that is very sweet of you to get her the chocolate covered strawberries. 🍓
 
I believe her parents are well off so I don't think she will be short of money. Plus I assume she will be making sure the babies dad pays towards his/her keep too.
pay for her child
I should clarify - I am not referring to just money. I mean "pay the price for the child."

She wants someone to share/take over the heavy lifting in her life. And likely she knows her parents' age/other family members' responsibilities/AP's character will not allow her to pawn off the uncomfortable stuff. She's scared of a lifestyle change, I think.

DJ has shown he has a good head on his shoulders and is dependable. She interprets his strengths as resources for her to mine for her own plans. Likely there are few options for single men in her sphere who seem to have the internal stability of DJ, so she wants to recruit him to be her pawn. Instead of the hard work needed to build a new relationship, she will pour that energy into attempting to enlist DJ for babysitting, God parenting, etc.

I hope that I'm incorrectly reading her.

DJ, you have been doing a great job with how you have been handling this whole situation from the get-go.
 
To tell you the truth her being pregnant is a completely irrelevant side detail in this story. It changes nothing from my perspective.
It doesn't change anything from your perspective, but it does seems to be a key point in her mind in her fantasized hope of getting you back.
Hence all the other comments advising to properly and documentedly distancing from her ...

Was there any reason you never had kids in your 5 years of marriage ? Not sure if it may or may not play a role in her current mindset...
 
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Hey all. Had a wonderful dinner with S last night. The dinner was excellent, but the company and conversation were even better. She lives with her young daughter in an apartment in a nearby city. We kept the conversation light and fun but towards the end did get into the elephants in the room: our divorces. Not the details. Just the short summaries. Her story sounded a lot like mine only with more gaslighting and manipulation. But after reading some of the posts and experiences on this forum I guess all the infidelity experiences follow the same pattern. The one thing they all have in common is selfishness. Selfish people place gratification of their selfishness over any promise or obligation to anyone else. It's why we can't have nice things.

Anyway, after dinner talked hours. It felt so good to just be able to relax and enjoy someone's company without having to be "on guard". I guess I didn't even realize how tense I've been for months. Since this whole thing started last year, it's been like that. I asked her out for next weekend, but she said she has her daughter. Her ex has every other weekend. So, I suggested we do something she can enjoy too. I think that took her aback and I was afraid I'd overstepped. But she seemed happy with the suggestion, so we are taking her to the Sunday Funday for kids in Pretoria. And you can bring dogs so Maddy can come too. Looking forward to that. And.... drumroll please... first kiss happened. Folks, driving home I realized I haven't felt this good in a long time. Years even. Things with the ex were going downhill long before she left. Now I know why obviously. But this is like that first warm spring morning after a cold winter, and you realize everything is going to be clean and new. It's a great feeling!

Now as for the ex. I got nothing. No news, not contact, no word, not nothing. Today is the 9th day since her letter and my response phone call and all is quiet. Maybe it really is over. God, I hope so. No man was ever more ready to just move on with life.
 
Hey all. Had a wonderful dinner with S last night. The dinner was excellent, but the company and conversation were even better. She lives with her young daughter in an apartment in a nearby city. We kept the conversation light and fun but towards the end did get into the elephants in the room: our divorces. Not the details. Just the short summaries. Her story sounded a lot like mine only with more gaslighting and manipulation. But after reading some of the posts and experiences on this forum I guess all the infidelity experiences follow the same pattern. The one thing they all have in common is selfishness. Selfish people place gratification of their selfishness over any promise or obligation to anyone else. It's why we can't have nice things.

Anyway, after dinner talked hours. It felt so good to just be able to relax and enjoy someone's company without having to be "on guard". I guess I didn't even realize how tense I've been for months. Since this whole thing started last year, it's been like that. I asked her out for next weekend, but she said she has her daughter. Her ex has every other weekend. So, I suggested we do something she can enjoy too. I think that took her aback and I was afraid I'd overstepped. But she seemed happy with the suggestion, so we are taking her to the Sunday Funday for kids in Pretoria. And you can bring dogs so Maddy can come too. Looking forward to that. And.... drumroll please... first kiss happened. Folks, driving home I realized I haven't felt this good in a long time. Years even. Things with the ex were going downhill long before she left. Now I know why obviously. But this is like that first warm spring morning after a cold winter, and you realize everything is going to be clean and new. It's a great feeling!

Now as for the ex. I got nothing. No news, not contact, no word, not nothing. Today is the 9th day since her letter and my response phone call and all is quiet. Maybe it really is over. God, I hope so. No man was ever more ready to just move on with life.
How sweet of you to include her daughter:)
Lovely that you got on so well too!
 
I asked her out for next weekend, but she said she has her daughter. Her ex has every other weekend. So, I suggested we do something she can enjoy too. I think that took her aback and I was afraid I'd overstepped. But she seemed happy with the suggestion, so we are taking her to the Sunday Funday for kids
It's nice that you want to do that, but it's WAY too soon to involve her daughter. That's really not appropriate at all, and it's a red flag that she'd even allow that. Kids should not be introduced to a revolving door of men or "mom's friend". They aren't stupid, they know, and if they don't they are young enough to get attached quickly.

My head would be on a stake if I ever did that. When my wife had a custody agreement with someone, they both agreed to no introducing new relationships or interests until things were serious and established for a full year.
 
Doesn’t this also potentially bring the child’s biological father into the picture?

Understandably woman was “taken aback” she probably should have explained it was too soon to acquaint her daughter with a new male friend. Usually mothers are cautious about that. Maybe a little desperate for male attention.

Would imagine her ex won’t be thrilled for his daughter interacting with his ex’s male friend.
 
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