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I could use some advice. She left last night. I guess I’ll just spell this out as plainly as I can. She cheated on me. She insulted me. She belittled everything I’ve ever done in this life. Then she left me for the man she was having an affair with.

The “she” is my wife of six years. Or maybe only five years. It seems she’s been in love with someone else for the past year. Or so she told me. She’s 30, I’m 31M. I am the simplest man you will ever meet. I work with my hands. I pray on my knees. I don’t lie. I ask for nothing but to be paid the same love and respect I give. Maybe with her that was asking too much.

I grew up in a small rural town in Georgia, USA. My dad passed when I was 17. My mom was disabled so I dropped out of school and took a job working construction to help her and my little brother. By the time I was 25 I was a pretty good carpenter, mason, electrician, and mechanic. I could build a roof, wire up a house, or fix an engine pretty well. I was even handy with air conditioners. My grandpa passed in 2014 and left me six acres of good land and I began building a house on it for myself. I did most the work alone. I even made a good bit of the furniture in it. It took almost two years of night and weekend work to finish. I was very proud of it. It isn’t fancy. It isn’t all that big but it was sturdy, simple, nice, and it was all mine.

I met my wife in 2017. She was working in the office of her father’s building materials business. She was short, petite, had beautiful blue eyes and freckles. When I first met her I was so struck I think I said something dumb, but I don’t even remember what it was. She smiled at me, and I swear I forgot my own name! I started finding reasons to visit and offered to so some work for her father. Soon we started having lunch together. Then I got my courage up and asked her out.

Being with her made me very happy. Happier than anything ever had. The night I got home from our first date I worked out a budget to put money away for the diamond ring I was already sure I was going to buy her someday. We dated for a year before I proposed to her while watching the sun set on a trip to Clearwater Beach. She said yes and cried. Maybe I did too a little.

After a year we had a small church wedding and a beautiful trip to the Bahamas. She moved into my house. Well, she was basically living there anyway. We just made it official after the wedding. She seemed so happy and content. She redecorated the whole place. We planted trees, flowers, even a vegetable garden together. We adopted a kitten together. I built that house, but she made it feel like a home. She made it come alive. She made me come alive. We were talking about starting our family. Life was just perfect. And then it wasn’t.

She changed. It wasn’t gradual. It happened very quickly. She was always irritated. Nothing made her happy. She was mad at the cat. She was mad at me. She used to tell me how much she loved our house. Then she hated it. She hated her car. She hated her clothes. She hated her life and blamed me for all of it. She hated how everything we had was “cheap”. That really stung because we worked hard for everything we had. We were not rich, but we had no debt. We owned almost everything we had outright. Everything we had was nice. None of it was cheap or junk like she said. For her birthday I had made her a makeup/vanity table with mirrors, lights, storage. I carved floral scrollwork into the edges and legs and sealed it all in pink hued clear resin. It was some of my best work ever. This was something she had always said she wanted. Her appreciation was half hearted and she later criticized me for not buying her something nice. That was not her only gift, by the way.
She started staying out, visiting her sister on weekends, having drinks with her coworkers. I really didn’t know what to do because I couldn’t tell what was causing this. This went on for couple of months before I started trying to put a stop to it and get to the bottom what was wrong. That led to some pretty terrible arguments.

Then, this past Tuesday it happened. I got home from work and there she was on the front porch carrying two full suitcases to her car. I asked her “Just like that? No explanation?” She told me she had fallen out of love with me. She wasn’t happy. She couldn’t stay. I asked her what happened to us. She said “I’ve changed. You haven’t”. I told her that was the first thing she said that I completely agreed with in a very long time. She rolled her eyes at that. As she opened the car door to leave, I grabbed it and held on. I asked her if there was someone else. She said “No”.

I found out the next day that was a lie.

Her father and I are close. He reminds me of my dad. I had done carpentry work for him over the years, And I fixed one of the forklifts he used at his business. It’s through him I met my wife. The night after she left, I was sitting on the front porch not knowing what to do with myself when he pulled up. He walked up to the porch carrying a bottle of bourbon and two glasses. He sat down and poured three fingers in each glass and handed one to me. All he said was “Son, I’m sorry”.

I always thought of myself as a man’s man. I don’t get emotional. I don’t get angry or upset. I can count on one hand all the times I’ve cried as an adult. I almost broke down when he said that. But what came next was the worst. He apologized for what she did. “Leaving you for that man” were his exact words. It turns out there was someone else. There had been for a while.

She came back yesterday to get the rest of her things. She said she wanted to talk. She said she didn’t want to leave with me hating her. I don't know how she thought this was going to end any other way. But I was calm and cold. I said I had just one question; why? She said she never wanted to hurt me. “It just happened” she said. But she was in love with the other man and he will “give her a better future than I ever could" as she put it. I stared at her for a few seconds after that. It felt like I’d been punched. I told her she should get her things and leave.

I did have one last laugh though. She packed her clothes and things into hefty trash bags and carried them to her car. I imaged she was taking out the trash. And she was. That made me smile.
I never asked who he was. I guess it doesn’t matter. I couldn’t make her stay and wouldn’t even if I could. She’s so different now from the girl I loved. I feel like I don’t know her. But if people can change so much so quickly, does anyone ever really know anyone?
This is where I need the advice. What do I do now? I’ve been sitting here since. Not really knowing. I guess next week I’ll have to hire a lawyer. I have a home and assets to protect. There are work projects I could be doing but I can’t concentrate. I don’t want to go anywhere and I don’t want to stay here. Our cat, well my cat now because she left him too, keeps trying to distract me. It isn’t really working. I feel like I’m lost and can’t find my way. I know in a little while I’ll be fine. The sun will come up and all this will eventually pass. The Georgia vs Texas game comes on in three hours but right now I can’t even make myself care.

A lot of you folks have been where I am now. How to you get yourself through the bad times?
So sorry you're facing this. Youve received some good advice here. Id follow a lot of it to the letter.

Im gonna take stab at what has transpired.

You sound like a hard-working, pull-yourself up-by-your-bootstraps, straightforward, uncomplicated kind of guy (good for you btw). Unfortunately, unknown to you, you married anything but that. Oh, she may have fronted it to get you on the hook, but that facade dropped quickly after the wedding, didnt it. Old timers used to call this a "false front" which is what youve now encountered. This happens a lot.

Why would she go through all of this to drop you so quickly? Who knows? Maybe she had a wildly romanticized view of what marriage was all about and discovered that it was just like the rest of life, hard work. Maybe she saw your home and land and saw an easy mark with a guy who fell for her fast and hard. On top of that, maybe her Daddy spoiled the hell out of her making her incredibly entitled. Additionally, maybe she was conniving enough to stay in the marriage just long enough to go after your assets when she left you. Maybe it was all of the above. Regardless of the toxic mix in her soul, she was not who you thought she was.

Three things you need to do asap.

1. See an attorney immediately. I have a sneaking suspicion she stayed just long enough that the marroage cannot be annulled and must go through the full divorce process and try to get $$$ out of your assets, premarital or not. You definitely need to find out if you are in an "at fault" or "no fault" state.

2. Go to a clinic and get tested for std's and sti's. Do not put this off.

3. Find a betrayal trauma specialist and start seeing them at least wekly for a while. Youll need help with this or it will f up your head for a very very long time.

The last thing I want to say to you is that you seem like a nice guy. Sadly, nice guys get rolled way too many times. Please read:

• No More Mr Nice Guy

• The Way of The Superior Man

And internalize it. You will become stronger and wiser.

Keep posting here.
 
Interview/choose a lawyer, and file as soon as you can. Have her served at work, don't tell her it's coming (you are no contact, remember?). You do not want to take the chance of her filing first, as she will then be able to control the pace of the divorce, and it will support her lies about divorcing you for whatever perceived slights she will come up with to tell people
This.

First thing Monday morning.
 
First of all, I am sorry you are going through this. I know how it feels, how betrayed you feel now and the multitude of emotions you are going through. I wen't through most of the things myself not too long ago. My story is here on the forum and you can see, by following the thread, how things have progressed in the past 9 months.

I won't be giving you any legal advice since I come from a completely different country. But, I will tell you what helped me.

My family was by my side and extremely helpful. They supported me, provided advice, help (both emotional and financial), and stood near me when I only saw darkness in front of me. So were my friends. I don't have many, but the very few that I do have were very supportive. I spent countless hours on the phone with some of them and jut having someone to talk too was of more help than I could have ever imagined. Others took me on hiking trips with them or invited me out just so I have something else to think about. It was hard, but you can push through it and come out on top.

You are a strong man. I read your entire post and, even though it may not feel like it right now, you are strong and you can not only survive, but thrive. It will take some time, so have patience. For me it took about 3 months until I could accept that things are indeed over. After that I saw improvements almost constantly.

Now, If you read my story, there are some key differences. I have a child and my ex, and at least in the start, I had to pick up both parent's role. This, even though it was hard, gave me a purpose and the energy to get out of bed.

I also started therapy right away. This was also extremely helpful and allowed me to process my emotions, my thoughts, and to understand that this was not a "me" problem. Also, this forum was very helpful. I got great advice, I met people that actually cared for me even though we are all strangers that never met in real life. It was a place for me to vent, to get advice or just to not feel alone. Because I often felt alone.

Now, to end on a positive note. You will survive this and you will be even better on the long run. You are young (even younger than I am), hard working, with your own place and healthy. Don't rush into thing, give yourself time to heal and to be an even better of yourself. But you must accept that this is over and, no matter what she sais, don't take her back. In some situations, they come crawling back (not always), but you must not take her back. And eventually, you will meet someone new, someone who will appreciate you and who will fulfill needs you did not even knew you had.

P.S. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk. I know how much it can help just having someone to talk too. I am you 9-10 months from now.
 
@BluePencil your exemplary progress in a few months will help OP and others. Recall many telling you that when you were at emotional bottom.

The sun also rises.
I was lucky. I am well aware that most don't reach this point this quick. And it is ok. Each have their own pace and time they need to heal.
 
My biggest advice is take off your rose colored glasses and open your eyes and see her for what she really is and not what you thought and hoped she would be.

You will quickly see that she is a Cee Uou Next Tuesday.

As Chump Lady always says in her blogs and podcasts etc - “Trust that they suck.”

In other words trust that she really is this bad and really is the monster you are seeing and experiencing with your own eyes..

….. and act accordingly.

Get to the lawyer ASAP Monday morning and protect yourself legally and financially.

She is the kind of person that will empty out all joint accounts, run up debt in your name, and file false domestic abuse charges to get you thrown out and locked out your own house, lose you 2A rights and be treated as criminal by the court system.

Get a good divorce attorney ASAP and then do what the attorney says and do not do what the attorney says not to do and do not do anything that is not on the advice of counsel.

every instinctive idea you have in how to handle her and this situation will be wrong and every decision you make without counsel will be a bad one that will bite you in the butt.

Your # 1 job now is to protect yourself and move on with your own life doing what will be in your own best interests without regards to her.

She has chosen her own fate without regard to you. You need to do the same in order to protect yourself and your assets and interests.
 
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Thank you so much for the feedback everyone. I am taking your advice to heart. I've been totally NC to her since Friday. She actually texted me twice today then called me. I ignored her calls and texts. I don't know what her game is but I'm not playing. I took the week off work and should have legal representation soon. The assets I care about, my home, truck, tools, etc were mine before I met her. They should be safe.
 
The assets I care about, my home, truck, tools, etc were mine before I met her. They should be safe.
Don't make that assumption!

You need to get a competent divorce attorney and do exactly what he/she says to preserve as much of your assets as possible.

Depending on the divorce laws of your jurisdiction, she will be entitled to a certain percentage of the marital assets.

Each jurisdiction will have a different method for determing which assets are fair game for distribution and which are not.... and that often does not have anything to do with what YOU may think is fair game or not.

You never divorce the same woman you married. You have to look at her as the enemy now that is out to get you and take all your stuff.

In the bottom of the 9th she may opt to not go for your jugular and to just walk away with whatever she needs. But she always has the option to at least attempt to walk away with everything. There are people that have dug their heels in and fought tooth and nail for years racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees and lawyer bills over stupid stuff just because they want to be an ass.

She has shown her true colors of being an ass so do not turn your back or assume that anything is safe from her.
 
That's what I was thinking
No, our @Livvie is saving his opening post.
For posterity.

She hates that some posters leave without saying goodbye.
Taking their ball and bat with them.

Destroying the evidence, likely fearful of getting caught.

By whom?
We shall never know.
 
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Don't make that assumption!

You need to get a competent divorce attorney and do exactly what he/she says to preserve as much of your assets as possible.

Depending on the divorce laws of your jurisdiction, she will be entitled to a certain percentage of the marital assets.

Each jurisdiction will have a different method for determing which assets are fair game for distribution and which are not.... and that often does not have anything to do with what YOU may think is fair game or not.

You never divorce the same woman you married. You have to look at her as the enemy now that is out to get you and take all your stuff.

In the bottom of the 9th she may opt to not go for your jugular and to just walk away with whatever she needs. But she always has the option to at least attempt to walk away with everything. There are people that have dug their heels in and fought tooth and nail for years racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees and lawyer bills over stupid stuff just because they want to be an ass.

She has shown her true colors of being an ass so do not turn your back or assume that anything is safe from her.
"You never divorce the same woman you married. You have to look at her as the enemy now that is out to get you and take all your stuff."

You are 100% right there. She's taken my dignity and my peace but that is all she will ever have of me.
 
I've been totally NC to her since Friday. She actually texted me twice today then called me. I ignored her calls and texts. I don't know what her game is but I'm not playing.
This is one thing you are doing right.

Do not take any bait. As I said above, anything you do on your own right now will be wrong and come back to bite you in the ass.

She’s shown you her true colors - believe them. She is not your friend and does NOT have your interests in mind no matter what she says.

Do not engage with her directly. Things that need to be communicated need to go through your lawyer.

Yes this will cost you more $ upfront. But she has shown a very high degree of hostility and disregard and there is a very high likelihood of her doing her best to screw you over.

whatever you pay in additional lawyer fees now, will save you more in the long run if you try to freelance this.

Some people are able to have fair and cooperative divorces with minimal conflict and attorney fees.

She has shown that she is NOT one of those people.
 
The assets I care about, my home, truck, tools, etc were mine before I met her. They should be safe.
The way this usually works is unless you were religious about keeping separate accounts and only using your money on the house, she will be able to claim 50% of any gain in equity during your six years of marriage. Unfortunately most of us commingle funds while married. Functionally that's half of both the amount of .mortgage payments that applied to principal plus any increase in value. You need to make sure you are prepared to counter her claims. Don't assume you are in the clear until your lawyer is able to convince the judge and he rules.
 
"You never divorce the same woman you married. You have to look at her as the enemy now that is out to get you and take all your stuff."

You are 100% right there. She's taken my dignity and my peace but that is all she will ever have of me.
Women don`t share the same empathy and compassion as men, they are of a whole different mindset. I am not being misogynistic I make this statement from my lifetime of experiences.
This is why it`s easier for women to move on than men.
You may be shocked and find it difficult to believe that the woman you loved is capable of doing you culpable harm.

Firstly refuse to communicate with her except via your lawyer and her lawyer, no emails, phone calls or media.
Another point, do not move out of your home otherwise she`ll claim you deserted her.
 
My biggest advice is take off your rose colored glasses and open your eyes and see her for what she really is and not what you thought and hoped she would be.

You will quickly see that she is a Cee Uou Next Tuesday.

As Chump Lady always says in her blogs and podcasts etc - “Trust that they suck.”

In other words trust that she really is this bad and really is the monster you are seeing and experiencing with your own eyes..

….. and act accordingly.

Get to the lawyer ASAP Monday morning and protect yourself legally and financially.

She is the kind of person that will empty out all joint accounts, run up debt in your name, and file false domestic abuse charges to get you thrown out and locked out your own house, lose you 2A rights and be treated as criminal by the court system.

Get a good divorce attorney ASAP and then do what the attorney says and do not do what the attorney says not to do and do not do anything that is not on the advice of counsel.

every instinctive idea you have in how to handle her and this situation will be wrong and every decision you make without counsel will be a bad one that will bite you in the butt.

Your # 1 job now is to protect yourself and move on with your own life doing what will be in your own best interests without regards to her.

She has chosen her own fate without regard to you. You need to do the same in order to protect yourself and your assets and interests.
Read this over and over OP. Itll harden your resolve.
 
Hey everyone. I have retained a lawyer. He says we are in pretty good shape at first look. Not much to fight over.
OK now the thing you need to be aware of is there is a very good chance once things start getting real and papers start getting filed and the realities of the situation start sinking in, there is a very real chance she will show up at your door in the middle of the night wanting a do over.

This will be a certainty if this other guy decides she was fun to fool around with as a married woman as a side piece but doesn’t actually want her full time as a partner who will now want him to change her flat tires in the rain and kill big scary spiders around the house.

Heed this warning seriously for this happens all the time.

guys that get with married women do so because WWs are all fun and games with the OM because they have a husband at home to pay bills, fix leaky fawcets, pick up dog poop in the yard and change their flats.

Once the WW starts expecting the OM to do those things, he often looses interest and bails.

That leaves her out in the cold so she comes back assuming you’ll just take her back after some crocodile tears and claiming she had some kind of crazy moment.

Its easy to think you’ve had some kind of victory and best out the OM and that she has come to her senses.

but before you consider welcoming her back, you need to acknowledge that she dumped you with cold calculation and sincerely thought the OM was the bigger, better deal (BBD)

she had lost all love and respect and desire for you.

She’s just back now because he didn’t actually want her after all and now she needs a roof over her head.
 
Women don`t share the same empathy and compassion as men, they are of a whole different mindset. I am not being misogynistic I make this statement from my lifetime of experiences.
This is why it`s easier for women to move on than men.
You may be shocked and find it difficult to believe that the woman you loved is capable of doing you culpable harm.

Firstly refuse to communicate with her except via your lawyer and her lawyer, no emails, phone calls or media.
Another point, do not move out of your home otherwise she`ll claim you deserted her.
Why is it then that men are generally far quicker to date and marry again after a divorce or bereavement? I see it all the time.
 
Glad to see you got an attorney. Get out as cleanly and as fast as you can. Don’t settle for anything less than fair.

You’ve made a huge step in the direction of being happy again. Once you start taking real steps toward getting her out of your life, you will start feeling better. It takes a long time. Healing is so slow it’s worse than watching grass grow. I’d almost guarantee that you see this agonizing ordeal as a blessing, a few years from now.

You have done FAR better than most. You don’t have kids with her and you’re plenty young enough to start over. Please, if o could give you a piece of advice: DO NOT even consider marriage again for several years no matter how wonderful the woman is you meet. Let this ordeal get completely out if your system and preferably date several women before even considering another long term relationship. Enjoy being single for a good while.
 
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