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Separation is Approaching A Year Now/Feels Like Abandonment

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This is my second marriage. I(currently)(59) married a woman(55) who had represented herself to be somewhat financially well-off, as I had left my job with the Fed in order to marry and move away with her. Her mantra was that she was so well-off financially(est. @low to mid seven figures) that it would not really require me to work full-time, although I do have a flourishing avocational occupation. We had dated about a year before deciding to tie the knot, and have subsequently been married for some 7+ years. A pre-nuptial agreement had been drawn up and signed prior to the wedding.

She had kids from her previous marriage as did I. Mine, I am proud to say, are very studious, ambitious, and educationally inclined, as they both are honor students; one at a major university and the other at a private school. Her's have always been lazy, being nothing more than problem students and dropouts, choosing to leave school in favor of embracing the drug culture, tattoo emporiums, law enforcement, and ultimately the judicial system. All have records for drug possession with one having actually done time in county incarceration.

She had never given me any notable information or explanation about her finances, nor did I ever make that request as I came to trust her implicitly. I felt that it was not really any of my business. Without hesitation she was always gracious enough upon insisting that she pay for my kids educational expenses to keep them from incurring any student loans.

In December of 2010, a local girl who was in her early 20's, who my STBXW knew as a contractor that she had employed from time to time, moved into our house at her insistence and my relationship with my STBXW was headed South ever since. My STBXW said that she had invited this girl to move in because she really had nowhere else to live. And from that point in time, my STBXW had little to no time for me, staying on the road.


So in early March, 2011, my STBXW came into my study to annonce to me that she wanted a "trial separation" coinciding with my kids getting out of school for the Spring semester. She intoned that she was now greatly concerned about her finances and could no longer afford to pay the tuition of my secondary school child. However, she said that she would steadfastly continue to financially support my college child with tuition, since she was an alumnus of the college that he attends as a student. She said that this "trial separation" in effect, would allow us to communicate from afar and that we could get together occasionally for a family meal at a local restaurant allowing us to try to work things out between us. She thought that it would be best that I move to a locale about a half-hour away, to the city where my sons college and high school are located, supposedly to cut down on drive time and gasoline expenses.

Now I really do not know if this separation actually stemmed from the stock market heading South, in essence taking a lot of her wealth from her, but she made it abundantly clear that my spending habits, which were primarily for joint household living expenses, and mostly for food, gasoline, liquor for her, bills, pets, and livestock, were not what she wanted. By the same token, it was not uncommon for her to continue to lavish money on her own kids for cars, a separate residence of their own, insurance, tattoos, and to just be there for them whenever they needed to be bailed out of jail or needed money for any legal representation. She highly resented my informing her of whenever I happened to run across overt evidence of drugs, residue, or alcohol in the house that these minors of hers were bringing in both with and without her knowledge. I haven't even mentioned the shady druggies that frequently came by to keep her kids company and to obviously ply their wares.

She wanted my college-aged child to be told of the impending separation almost straight away, but absolutely did not want my secondary school child to have any knowledge of it until such time that he returned from his out-of-state class trip. This was done under the guise that she did not want to jeopardize his good grades, final exams, and class trip to cause him any worry and anxiety. She then physically helped to move the vast majority of our belongings out of the main house into our rent home some 30 miles away in another county where the kids and I now reside. The youngest child actually returned from his class trip and was taken to our "new residence" with little more than an awkward explanation from me.

My STBXW initially did not want any of her family members to have any knowledge of the separation. I honored that, but later discovered that her family had ultimately learned about the separation from her. Since then, I have had virtually no contact with them as well. To date, there has not been as much as a telephone call from my STBXW in these nearly 9 months of separation, much less any of her extended family members. My kids both still think the world of her and have driven over to see her and her extended family members on several occasions and she and my kids stay in touch via telephone and Facebook. But since she had us moved out, she will rarely send a text message or an email to me and then it will only be geared toward business matters, i. e. a bill or some pressing business matter. She randomly shows up at our residence without the slightest notice whenever she is in town, usually with boxes of our clothing or other belongings in tow. She is ultra-cordial and talkative to my sons, but verbally will not give me the time of day. She is truly a physically beautiful woman, and when I see her, it can occasionally make me begin to long for her. But in my heart I know all too well that there is absolutely nothing there but coldness anymore.

Whenever I go back over to our old home to try to retrieve personal items, she gets quite defensive about my presence there without providing her with prior knowledge of my coming. My entire rationale is that if I did inform her of such, she would simply find a reason to either not be there or to answer the door. I still have a lot of my own family's furniture and antiques all acquired through inheritance still there, along with stored clothing and personal effects in the house and also in her warehouse. All too often, when I do show up, there is no one home, newspapers collecting on the front lawn, and the house is securely locked up. Upon my leaving, she took the liberty of removing the house key off of my key ring, but strangely enough, she let my sons retain theirs. I absolutely refuse to even try to enter the house when she is not there for fear of any possible legal ramifications.

She travels both internationally and domestically rather frequently on trips designed to help her monitor her investments in the cities that she has them in. Trips to Asia, Europe, the Carribean and Hawaii are not uncommon. In my marriage years, I never once was asked to accompany her on any of them as she usually went with other friends and business associates of hers. I got to stay home and take care of things while she travelled. And since moving out, I am never informed of any of these trips by her, usually finding out about them from one of my kids.

In early November, she came by late one night shortly after I had gone to bed. She brought over some boxes that the boys helped her bring into our house. Sometime the next afternoon, I also discovered a typed sheet of paper that she had discretely placed listing some minor inventory items with attached monetary values of the goods that she had brought over that evening. Inside that folded paper was a sealed envelope with my name written in her handwriting on the front. After opening it up, I saw that it was a copy of a filed petition for divorce from our original home county where she resides. Although she left the copy of the petition for divorce, according to my attorney, that is still not deemed to be legal service in my state. So until I legally receive proper service, my attorney advises doing nothing for the time being. My STBXW sent out an email in January asking if I had seen the "legal letter" that she left here. Upon advice of counsel, I was told to tell her that I had indeed seen it and was contemplating what steps that I might possibly take. But according to my attorney, that in no way implies legal service in Texas.

It was not uncommon for her to call and invite the boys to her family gatherings such as Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve. The boys asked me if they could go, and I agreed that they might enrage her if they didn't since she still throws money their way if they need it. My eldest is still having his college tuition and expenses largely subsidized by her, as well as supplying him with one of her vehicles to drive. He's fearful that if he doesn't stay in lockstep with her requests, that she could ultimately cut them both off. That hurts me nearly as much as my separation and impending divorce from her.

On a very recent trip over to see her, she told the boys that she was leaving to take a Mardi Gras vacation in NO, from Feb. 11 through the 22nd. She told them that a friend was picking her up and driving them to NO. I'm thinking that she is on a cruise out of NO up until the final days of Mardi Gras. I can't help but believe that during this entire episode since my moving out, that she has been busy seeing someone. She has changed her name on FB back to her name when I first met her. I've often thought that she might leak certain details on FB about her lifestyle that I could possibly put in my lawyers hands, but since I do not do FB, that's really not an option. And even if I did, I think she'd restrict me in some way.

The pain from all of this has caused me to greatly lose sleep as I have only managed to average some 4 to 5 hours a night at best while trying to manage the living activities for my sons and me.

I am primarily living off of my Fed retirement as it most difficult these days for a man in his late 50's to get the opportunity to reenter the work force, more especially in this downturned economy of ours. She has even intoned that I could live off of federal assistance. But I was quick to assert that that since I was not yet even eligible for Social Security benefits, that that wasn't even a remote possibilty since we are still deemed to be married in a community property state. Given all of this, I really can see no discernible hope for this marriage. My eldest child feels like he and his brother have been squarely placed between a rock and a hard place, in that if they truly vent their frustrations about the current state of affairs, that the proverbial money and tuition card would be pulled from them. So they both try to empathize with me, but must remain quiet in the whole process of things. I still am having to foot the bill for my youngest son's private school tuition which I don't mind doing at all.

I have tried to immerse myself by becoming busy in joining a local church, but at times, the lonliness seems to get the better part of me. I'm also in the process of selecting a family counselor to have to bounce things off of, as I already have done with my pastor. I just wanted to share my rather lengthy story with you, and see if any of you had any similar circumstances or ideas. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart if you've taken your time to read this far. Best of luck to you all and may our Lord and Saviour richly bless all of you!
 
#43 · (Edited)
Today started well then turned crappy! STBXW brought youngest son back from her town where he had spent the past couple of days trying out for the "little theatre" troupe there.

Well he walked through the door announcing that he was home and said, "Hey, Dad: ____ just had me unload a bunch of boxes with your stuff in it out in the garage." I asked if she was still there and he said that she was in a hurry and took off already.

She never announces her presence or even what she's planning on doing. I certainly could have waited on these boxes. I mean, they've been with her for better than a year now. Can't quite see what a few more months would hurt. If she really wanted to do something useful, she could have moved the furniture that I had inherited from my parents that is old, quite nice, and supplies that big old house of "hers"~ (just ask her, she'll tell you!)~ with all of its ambience and charm!

But what really got me PO'd the most was that my youngest son said that she had him packing boxes and loading those heavy things out to her pickup truck for transport. So I guess that there was an ulterior motive, after all, in having him come over for a day or two other than for having him stay with her, certainly out of the sheer goodness of her heart!
 
#44 ·
Arb,

Did you really expect any better from the biotch!

Keep moving forward and find an attorney worth their salt to make her fantasy life a little nightmare.

HM64
 
#45 ·
Happy:

Got a great, fairly-prominent, female attorney representing me~ think one of the main reasons that she actually took the case is that she absolutely despises STBXW's counsel and seems to have a pretty good track record against the guy. So we'll see how it all plays itself out.

But what royally pi$$es me off to no end is that she had my youngest over there packing boxes with my belongings, when he could have been doing something for himself somewhere. Trust me, my counsel will find out what transpired and will not exactly be all that thrilled about it!
 
#46 ·
Recent Development: STBXW has "invited" a woman from a Scandanavian country to our former home in order to help her out with ranch and farm work. In fact, she arrived here just late last week.

Youngest son has been doing some summer work earning college money, for a retired church friend of mine in the same town where we used to live. He has actually been staying with STBXW some during this process, and does little theatre rehearsals at night there. In all of this time, there is still no communication of any kind from her, not that I'm expecting any.

According to him, he met the woman. He says that she is only 21 years old and is supposed to be conversant with farm and ranch and equestrian work. I wasn't acutely aware that they had that kind of work in far northern Europe.

I do know that the last girl that she moved in was about that same age, but they supposedly had a "falling out" sometime last fall. FB acquaintances inform me that STBXW is talking about European, Asian, and Australian trips in the not too distant future. So I'm taking it that she brought this girl in to take up the slack of the farm work.

Either that, or she just seems to have a thing for young working farm women! Right now, I'm somewhat inclined to have my attorney strike with something just as soon as she is out of the country again!
 
#48 ·
Conrad: I was actually entertaining the procurement of a court order allowing me to go into the residence to retrieve the balance of my physical property(furniture/clothing/incidentals, et. al.) while the house is being baby-sitted by her live-in during STBXW's absence as those international trips of hers can take anywhere from 10-14 days to complete.

The only items that I cannot get to would be the jewelry items that are supposed to be locked up in a house safe. But I can have the court order specify a date by which those items need to be surrendered/conveyed to me.

In any event, I plan on having the court send a deputy to intervene during the process. And I'm thinking that it might actually make her lawyer show up from another city and milk her for $350/hour for his services for as long as I'm there. And being the ever-safety conscious type of guy that I am, I can be real slow moving stuff down those stairwells. Heck, I may even have to make 2 or 3 trips over there to get it all.
 
#49 ·
Your situation sound a lot like mine.

Currently separated 16 months. Husband is active-duty military with a position where he does NOT want anybody to know about our "separation." I asked him to make it legal, and he refused.

I moved out of state (no invitation to join him at his new duty station with our son) to take care of my elderly parents. Even with all the stress that goes along with care, he hasn't called in the six months I've been here. Emails were weekly, friendly things until I sent him the "I can't hold you against your will--you're free to go if you want out" email. That was a month ago today!

He is emotionally distant and, according to my counselor, narcissistic! When he married me, he said he "worshiped the ground I walked on." I raised his four children after his divorce and have been available to them through five military deployments of his. He is distant from the children, too, and doesn't go out of his way to contact them. When they contact him, they tell me he "sure does want to get off the phone as quickly as possible."

We are both educated with professional degrees. I can't believe I fell for this--at times I feel like a complete loser. When he told me early on in our relationship that "I'll divorce you, if you ever get fat", I thought he was joking. I didn't grow up with any kind of weight problem whatsoever. He also used to joke with me (so I thought) about marrying me, saying "If it hadn't been you, it would have been somebody else."

So, I'm hanging on for another year or so not knowing if he's genuinely interested in working on our marriage or not. He has dropped hints of positivity and then recoiled with negativity. I think some of this may have to do with midlife crisis--impending retirement, unfulfilled in marriage, some health issues, no relationship with his children, etc. My dad is very wise and said he thinks our relationship is in the back of my husband's mind right now and that he is trying to focus on retirement and all the feelings that go along with it.

Any interpretation from a male point of view is appreciated. I'm an extravert; he's an introvert. Couples with the emotional distance, I have no answers and don't know where I stand. I've learned that men speak with their actions, not words. I just feel so stuck!!
 
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#50 ·
MilitaryWifeAK: There are definitely some similarities there. But mine, at least by my perception, is more about her money than anything else. Read the running litany of events. It made me think that there's the presence of another guy, but after all of this, I'm not real sure. Earlier today, we were directed to drop my son off at STBXW's daughter's house. It was rather interesting that STBXW's vehicle was neither at her daughter's house, or even at her own house! Other times, it has certainly been OK for him to be dropped off at STBXW's abode as she has told him that she has left the doors unlocked for him. But strangely enough, not this time!

Have you or your husband filed any actions yet. And if so, what state would have jurisdiction? I sympathize with what you're going through. But look after those kids~ heck, he ain't exactly doing it and you may be the only vestige of parenting that those kids have.

Trust me! He will truly reap the rewards from all of the seeds of discord that he has so richly sowed with you and those kids over the years of your marriage. I truly wish you well, my dear!
 
#51 ·
Arbitrator: Thanks! You really seem to understand what's going on. I did read through your entire posting and caught on to the money issue in your situation, but I think I totally latched on to the things in your situation that mirror the things in my situation!

You're right about reaping the "reward" from the "seeds of discord." I just hate it for the kids. It's bad enough for me, but their biological mother abandoned them, and not it seems that their father is abandoning them, too. They're all adults except for our teenaged son, together, and it still hurts them.

We want to reach out to him, but he won't let us near him. My visit to his new duty station left me feeling more alone than when I really AM alone, as he informed me ahead of time that I would be sleeping in the guest room. He made no advances to me whatsoever, and a part of me feels as though he may have moved on, emotionally.

Thanks again for your encouragement. I only wish there was someone I could tell the whole story to and get the most truthful response possible. Maybe, sometime...
 
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#52 ·
Oh, I didn't respond to the filing of any actions. He told me to "be ready at the end of this tour", and his position will not lend itself to divorce. (I can't give out any more information than that.) He wants me to get what I'm "due" from the military benefit side of things, and being married a full 20 years will do that.

What does this mean for me? It means I'm married for another 12-24 months (depending on whether he files at 20 years or at the end of this tour), it means I continue to live day to day not knowing what's truly going on (he won't open up), it means I continue to work on the marriage alone (he isn't "in the right frame of mind" for counseling right now).

He has said "when I get my head together, we can work on the other things." Not sure what that means, but I won't file for D. I want to fight for the marriage. It's a horrible thing not to be wanted. I was adopted as an infant and have lived with the "bane" of being unwanted all my life. This sucks!!
 
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#53 · (Edited)
I truly feel for you, AK, and know what kind of predicament you must be in. If he isn't, in the least bit, interested in holding on to your marriage, then in all fairness, why should you? It is rather evident that he is employing the same mantra as my STBXW did~ emotional and physical abandonment, plain and simple; and it really makes me wonder if he isn't involved in either an EA or a PA with possibly some other woman.

You deserve far better, but I admire you for your Christian principles in fighting for your marriage! You are to be lauded for that! But there might well come a point in time when you will come to realize that you might have just been spinning your wheels. In any event, just look after the emotional welfare of those kids because you are truly their lifeline~ as it's certainly not him! Put your trust in God and pray often about it. He will not put any more on your shoulders than you can possibly bear.

As all of my TAM compadres will richly tell you, "we're so sorry to see you here, but you've absolutely come to the right place!" Not only will we try to convey useful advise to you in your situation, but maybe you can do the same for some of us. After all, the "give and take" of social therapy does us all some inherent good, whether we're on the giving or the receiving end.

God bless you my dear, and continue to look out for those kids! And we'll be here for you if you should ever need us!

You'll fastly remain in my prayers!
 
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Update:

Learned second-hand from youngest son that STBXW is taking off for a three week vacation somewhere on the East Coast. Left yesterday. She gave my 18 year old son permission to stay in her house with her recently acquired 21 year old lady ranch hand attendant from Europe. Can't say that I'm wild about that.

Then my son informs me that he is going "sky-diving" with one of STBXW's convict kids who was arrested for possessing and doing drugs and what not, and crap hit the fan. Son told me that he was going no matter what, and further told me that just because I hated STBXW and her kids didn't mean that he didn't like them.

I told him I didn't want him running around with dopeheads like STBXW's kids were, and demanded that he not go with them. If he wanted to go with a church, youth, or academic group who shows responsibility, then I might reconsider it. I asked if STBXW was paying for it, and he said "no," that he was. I told him that money would be better used for his academics at college this fall, and I got the old "it's my money~ I'll do as I please response." I then told him that if he went, that I'd cut him off and would have some influence on him possibly losing his summer job over it, in addition to threatening him with moving back home with his natural mother. He said it made do difference, that he was going, no matter what.

I talked to my oldest son who agreed with me and offered to counsel his little brother. He told him he should use better judgement in who to associate with and that my STBXW's kids were not the type.

Don't know if I came down too hard on him, but he was mad at me for the duration of yesterday, but has been in a rather pleasant mood this morning.

On another note, a mutual friend of mine and STBXW who does FB, alerted me that there was a photo posting in her montage of a couples shot with her and the OM lovingly posing next to each other back in February over in NOLA during Mardi Gras. This was a friend and co-worker of STBXW's now deceased husband and hers. I now remember having met this guy back in early 2011 when he came to town to pay her a visit in our home under fairly innocent pretenses. He wasn't there even an hour as she was busy showing him our historical home while I remained busy working in the study.

FYI, her FB marital status is still listed as "divorced," as it has been for a little better than a year now. The sad fact of the matter is that we haven't even had our first scheduled hearing in court yet.

Well anyway, it was just weeks later after this guys "initial" visit when she asked me for the "trial separation!"

I think that I've been doing relatively well preparing for the eventuality of court and I also know that I've, and with a lot of success, done the 180 on her(and, obviously, she on me). But after having seen that photo and making the associations, it really just rips my heart out and makes me want to lose faith in mankind!
 
#57 ·
Arb,

Deep inside, you had to know it was something like this.

Her "trial separation" was a thinly veiled smoke screen to pursue her fantasy with posOM.

So much of your story really didn't make any sense until this revelation. I do feel for you.

Hang in there.



 
#58 · (Edited)
Thanks, Conrad, Bandit, and Pidge, for your care and concern for me as well as for the boys.

I'd really love to contact STBXW's family, who I really deeply care for, just as they seemed to care about me; but legal counsel has ruled that out at this particular point in time! Getting the 180 from her is no problem~ but from her folks, who showed me and my sons family love and compassion, is conversely, quite torturing!
 
#59 ·
It just now dawned on me of an occurence with my STBXW way back in our "dating days" a couple of years prior to our marriage. At that particular point in time, she was divorced from her ex-husband who was rehabbing from alcoholism and living in his own home some 25 miles from her.

We were going out on a date that evening, but she said that she had to drop her kids off at his house since where we were going was located in his vicinity. I objected because I knew that he was crushed by her one-sided divorce from him and told her to take the kids over there and just come back and get me. She called me a "baby" and told me to go on along as it would save us so much more time.

Even though he was supposedly a very docile guy despite his alcoholic malady, I thought that my presence would hurt him so very much. I went on along, and she steered the vehicle right into his driveway where he had to have had clear view of me. I never felt so ill at ease in all of my life. I sternly told her to never ever subject me to that ever again. But she seemed so unmoved by it, telling me that I needed to be confrontational every once in a while.

Sad thing was that about a year later after we became engaged, his alcoholism finally killed him.

Hindsight always being 20/20, I should have pulled up stakes at that point and moved on to more worthwhile endeavors. That whole experience illustrates how she seems to get a rise out of hurting people. I guess that I am just far too trusting!

Now, I can fully understand what I feel that her true modus operandi really is!
 
#60 ·
Arb,

Your WW is a bi*ch!

You should reach out to her family.

Ask them if they can let you into the house so you can get your stuff while she is away.

Mention the facebook "divorced" status to them and remind them you have not even gone to court yet.

Or better yet maybe the sheriff can give you access since you are technically married.

Again I feel for you but stop thinking about her. You knew she was cheating.

The only good thing is she is paying for your kids education out of guilt.

I do hope she does not charge that to you in the D proceedings.

Stay strong. The lady definitely has a screw loose.

HM64
 
#61 · (Edited)
Would like to see her folks but until my attorney gives me the legal "all-clear," that's not possible. Since I do not do FB, I do not really want to identify my FB source of info, as I may need help there as proceedings loom. But it does make me think about opening up a FB account of my own. Would there be any investigative benefits in doing that? Please feel free to let me have any of your thought processes on that particular subject matter!

I don't think she'd charge back any educational expenses on collegiate son. The prep school son's senior year was funded by me, but she could go try to go back on me for his sophomore and junior years.

Legal counsel seems to think that she's living a pipe dream in getting anything from me primarily because (1) she volunteered to pay for it without the full execution of a repayment contract, and (2) I do not have the monetary assets nor the longetivity of life expectancy to pay her back. According to Texas law, if a prenup, no matter how well-intentioned it is, leaves one of the partners in a destitute or near-destitute state, then it can be deemed to be "unconsciable" and can well render it to be invalid, in effect busting the prenup and thus opening up the door to litigating the division of property under community property rules. She could make no claims against my inherited property, just as I could make no claim on any of her existing personal property acquired prior to marriage.

In essence, I don't really want anything of hers, community property or otherwise! But I would stringently allow it to be used strictly as an instrument of negotiation.
 
#63 ·
Not entirely! Texas is one of those newfangled "no fault" divorce states. Since we have the presence of a pre-nup, it will fall under those guidelines. However, if my attorney has the prenup declared "unconsciable" because its implementation would leave one of the marriage partners either destitute or near-destitution, then the presiding judge can invalidate it(break it), and then declare community property division. If that were to happen, then my attorney could petition for an "at-fault" hearing, which under those guidelines would allow for any evidence of infidelity to be admitted. Right now, STBXW already has 7 figures assets, and is demanding anywhere from 65K to 250K from me, who has neither! So we may very well be going the "Unconsciable Prenup" route!
 
#64 ·
For the pre-nup had you consulted an attorney at the time you signed it? Or was the signing date very close to the wedding date? I've read judges usually throw them away in those two cases.
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#65 · (Edited)
It was signed roughly a month before. By my lawyer(now deceased) and hers. I had more funds then since I had been working for the Fed and retired to marry her; and did not work anything other than my avocational duties as well as her assigned farm duties, all at her insistence.

The present prenup would pretty much place me out on the street with a meager 401k, my inherited family's antique furniture and jewelry; and personal clothing and belongings. Now STBXW used my Mom and Dad's diamond-studded wedding rings as well as my Mom's diamond solitaire, that I inherited from their estate. She hasn't quite yet seen fit to part with those. Under Texas property division rules, if I inherit anything, it would be "off-limits" to STBXW, just as her personal property would be off-limits to me.

My conception of a pre-nup, if you will, has always been that it's primary purpose is to keep the poorer wedding partner from laying claim to the wealthier partners assets. In addition to that, STBXW seemingly is using it to try to feather her own nest, by trying to fastly suck blood out of a turnip bank that has no real literal funding!
 
#66 ·
Well Arb now you really know what a vampire she really is.

And the vows did not mean much to her. She thinks she is one of the entitled few.

I do hope this info helps you or your attorney.

Do you know who the OM is? Can you name him in the divorce?

I feel your pain but keep moving forward.

HM64
 
#68 ·
I'm sorry it went down this way Arb. You trusted your gut and you were proven right. I imagine your lawyer will not want this made known and mess up the case on the pre-nup.
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#69 · (Edited)
Yesterday was rather hellish after having received this information. There are very few, if any people, however, that I can actually trust with this information, to talk with them about it.

It's really just a crap shoot if it would ever be used by my legal counsel other than possibly as a negotiation tool. My main question is:

Once the ink is signed on the divorce decree, would any of you advocate letting members of STBXW's family know exactly what came down? Her mom is in her 80's and is in delicate health. Personally, I don't think that she needs to know because of her health situation. But if she ever did find out, then I feel rather certain that there might well be a few changes made to her will possibly even disinheriting STBXW, or at least diminishing her proceeds.

I was thinking of sitting down with her brother, with the evidence in hand and letting him see the irrefutable evidence for himself, then simply let him be the messenger to her family.

Another primary question of importance is whether or not I share this newfounded information with my own sons, either before proceedings commence, or after the ink is dried on the decree.

All of your heartfelt advice would be sincerely appreciated!
 
#70 ·
Arb,

Whatever you need to do.

Only you can weight the pros and cons.

She is still financially supporting some of your kids stuff.

How much is that worth to you?

Is it worth your self-respect?
 
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#71 ·
I would get what you can in the divorce and then expose her big time: family, friends and a nice post copied out to all her FB friends. Then sit back and enjoy watching her plug the holes in the ****.
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#72 ·
And the biggest question is :Should I let my STBXW know that I have knowledge of all of the gory details dating back to 2010? And: Would you recommend that I consider getting a blood test of some type, knowing that she was sharing OM and me simultaneously for a while, although I haven't had relations with her or anyone since early May, 2011. And I have had no discernible symptoms of anything since then, although, at times, I just feel dirtier than hell!
 
#73 ·
And the biggest question is :Should I let my STBXW know that I have knowledge of all of the gory details dating back to 2010? And: Would you recommend that I consider getting a blood test of some type, knowing that she was sharing OM and me simultaneously for a while, although I haven't had relations with her or anyone since early May, 2011. And I have had no discernible symptoms of anything since then, although, at times, I just feel dirtier than hell!
Arb,

If it were me, I'd play it cagey.

Get tested. It will help your peace of mind.

On the rest, save it for the "tough part" of the negotiations you know lie ahead.

I'd even put your evidence in a safe deposit box.

You never know who is on who's team.

BTW - my heart goes out to you. Remembering that episode in her ex's driveway was a foretaste of how she'd treat you.

I wish people could see these things as they're happening.

They'd simply RUN away as fast as possible.
 
#74 ·
Arb,


I agree with bandit. Settle the divorce, see what you get out of it, holding her wayward docs in case you need them.

If your Divorce settles in your favor then let the info fly to her family and your boys.

I thought about your boys when you 1st mentioned the affair details.

I think they should know what she is really like and what affairs do to families.

In the end it is up to you.

HM64
 
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