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Wishes weather or not you are following my advise

It is apparent that you are in fact human.

Yes I am proud of your owning your **** and seems you have made progress.

The fact that DG seems to be wanting to punish and further hurt you is very sad.

After all he claims he did not want to but had to D you

In reading his two threads I would have never imagined he would do this.

The point is you have made progress not just running to him even if that's all you want is to be together again.

Wishes the best thing God ever made is another day.

Keep posting you are gaining ground to healing.

And possibly R

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Good thing I did not read this post yesterday because he invited me for drinks last night and I again declined. He is reading this thread so what I will say now is something he can explain.

Since the beginning of DG's relationship with OMW I get a text every now and then with this statement, "I just got me some more healing."

No, we won't be having drinks anytime soon. My journey to health does not include that kind of stop along the way.
This upsets me greatly... Deeply cruel at this point
 
I am used to it. It does not bother me so much anymore.
I know cause you are a survivor. Its what us survivors do, compartmentalize the pain. Forced emotional agility if you will. But I call him out on that destructive attitude and challenge him to knock it off. He is still responsible for his destructive behavior regardless of what you've done. You've paid a big enough price. Adding to it is only sadistic at this point. He can choose a constructive way to manage his pain instead of choosing ongoing effort of inflicting injury on you.
 
What DG is telling you now ("got some healing") is cruel, and he admitted to being cruel in his thread. It is also a little twisted, IMO.

It sounds like you are not desperate to be with him, and you are keeping good boundaries. Since you are divorced, you have no obligation to him. In addition, he is free to date whomever he wants. However, you have the right to decide that you will not be one of several girlfriends.

I'm so glad you are getting some understanding of yourself in IC. It sounds like DG was your guide through life, and then after he fell apart over the texting, he abused that position. Now you see him as a whole individual, with good qualities and with deep flaws too.

If he stops seeing OW, and the two of you get back together, it truly will be a new, different marriage. You have learned that you have something good to contribute to the marriage, and obviously he does too.

I'm so glad that you have come back, and that you are opening up! I can understand your journey, as I had to do some similar work, 28 years ago, in order to heal and become a secure person.
 
What DG is telling you now ("got some healing") is cruel, and he admitted to being cruel in his thread. It is also a little twisted, IMO.

It sounds like you are not desperate to be with him, and you are keeping good boundaries. Since you are divorced, you have no obligation to him. In addition, he is free to date whomever he wants. However, you have the right to decide that you will not be one of several girlfriends.

I'm so glad you are getting some understanding of yourself in IC. It sounds like DG was your guide through life, and then after he fell apart over the texting, he abused that position. Now you see him as a whole individual, with good qualities and with deep flaws too.

If he stops seeing OW, and the two of you get back together, it truly will be a new, different marriage. You have learned that you have something good to contribute to the marriage, and obviously he does too.

I'm so glad that you have come back, and that you are opening up! I can understand your journey, as I had to do some similar work, 28 years ago, in order to heal and become a secure person.
Great post. Nor does she have to accept his verbal cruelty. You can't afford any more injury. If it were me I would insulate myself from his destructiveness until he stopped and began choosing better.
 
Wishes, I hate to say this, but I need to say it before you meet with him in person.

I am not trying to offend, but to protect you.

Although sex is the last thing on your mind right now, you and your husband have a long history together, so things could move very quickly. Do not have sex with him. Make sure he knows that he needs to abstain from sex with other women, and have an STD test before you have sex with him. Did you know that AIDS has an incubation period of 6 months to a year? Did you have an STD test after you were with the other guy?
 
WIshes, thank you for coming back here and giving more of your side of the story. Some of what you have written brought me to tears, both for you and for myself as it reflects back on some of my own issues. I hope and pray that both you and your H can come out of all this as better people, whether that happens together or apart.
 
Welcome back wishes! I'm really glad you're posting and have people on your side to help you through the process of reviewing your past and letting the little girl in you understand what happened to her. That's a huge step forward.

As I said I never read EXH's thread, but he's sounding a bit more human now and not always in a good way.

With time you will be in a better position to know what you want with the rest of your life. You will have a new and better life in many ways by processing your past and getting free from it. I'm really encouraged and proud of you
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don't worry; she's probably not wearing underwear...so no worries there. eh? these people walk among us...or are bent over among us...either way..meh
You sound very bitter and angry and I'm guessing that has little to do with Wishes actions and more to do with what you've been through. You are entitled to your own opinion, of course, but I can't see how your last few posts are in any way going to help wishes move forward. It seems to me that she is aware of all that you have called her and more but the fact is some people ARE damaged by their FOO and without understanding how that contributed to their cheating, then no amount of beating up on themselves will change anything.
She is trying to figure it out, so I think we should give her some credit there. As others have said many times before, the cheating is always on the WS, but the problems in the marriage are many times on both of them.
 
There is nothing wrong with a little righteous anger and meh? bitter? lol..don't care if you, an anonymous poster, labels me bitter. What I am is honest. You should try it. I don't plan on coddling this cheater. That's not getting her anyway. Maybe she knows more the likes of you in real life, so she thinks this is okay behavior. It is not! FOO issues? cry me a river. Get her into therapy. Hitler had FOO issues. Caligula had FOO issues. She's got an ENTITLEMENT issue and no moral compass. Give her credit? is there something wrong with you? Give her credit? For what? You want her to get credit but THERE BE NO CONSEQUENCE. What is there to figure out? She wanted sex, got sex and now pays the consequences for it because her husband didn't want an open marriage.
And yeah, the CHOICE of cheating is on the WS; they cheated! :x
My advice is the best advice she is going to get and if she's a smart chica, she's gonna ignore you and listen to me. She has no moral compass and no boundaries. Get into serious theraphy, stop feeling sorry for herself and don't do it again. And if the consequence is she's lost her marriage and husband, then that's life. Signed, angry, bitter but keeping it real
I don't know where to start here with answering this, so I'll just paraphrase back to you your own words - I don't much care what you, an anonymous poster, think of me or my motivations. As for consequences, in case you missed it, her H did divorce her already and she is in serious therapy.

She originally asked for advice on whether or not it was feasible to hold out hope for a reconciliation. Obviously, you think not, that she doesn't deserve that chance. So be it, you could have made that point without spewing vitriol on everyone that disagrees with you.

Enough said, I don't want to contribute to thread jacking.
 
the only predator here is you, OP. You've got a lot of nerve reacting to the honest, real reaction you are getting here from posters. In your immoral, cheating fog, others like you cheer you on. Here, your actions are heinous, predatory and your woe is me crap isn't gonna fly. What did you think would happen when you disclosed the depths of your treachery? Did you think we would cuddle you and say, there, there. you feel bad? well, sweetcakes, it's all forgiven. Shall we add delusion to predatory?
You haven't EARNED the right to call me a name but if you want to, start with frigging honest.
You attacks on the Wishes are crossing a line here. We are here to help people, even WS. We are not there to denigrate and insult people to come to TAM for help.

You also have not EARNEd the right to speak to and about the OP in the manner that you are. Cool it.

(Speaking as a moderator)
 
No problem, moderator. Do you also plan on chastising Blahfridge for calling me angry and bitter and will Wishes be getting a stern warning for calling the posters here who don't agree with her actions predators? Meh..I read her ex's thread before she started posting here; it was the posters over there who picked him up when she did what she did to him.
I stick by everything I said.
Hey SG, I said you SOUNDED bitter and angry, not necessarily that you are, but I'll take it back, sure. You sound like a *****cat...better? :grin2:

I thank God everyday for my sense of humor. Happy Easter, everyone.
 
Now that wishes is actually talking, things are making more sense.
He is totally in the wrong in the "getting a little healing" comment.
Very wrong.
I do think it would be wise for both of you to break off all communication if you're thinking of reconciling, even of its on the future. No sense piling in any more pain than there already is
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Wishes, I hate to say this, but I need to say it before you meet with him in person.

I am not trying to offend, but to protect you.

Although sex is the last thing on your mind right now, you and your husband have a long history together, so things could move very quickly. Do not have sex with him. Make sure he knows that he needs to abstain from sex with other women, and have an STD test before you have sex with him. Did you know that AIDS has an incubation period of 6 months to a year? Did you have an STD test after you were with the other guy?
Totally agree with this. Just wanted to add that there is a newer, more expensive, more reliable test. It can detect HIV, much faster than 6 months. Most gp's don't Eve. Know about it. I had to take it, And the whole battery of other tests before anything took place with current gf.
No fun waiting in results, even if you have practiced "safe" sex and had few encounters.
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