I'm happy I live in CA. None of that where I live.
Women need the equivalent of deer hunting
I'm trying to think of something that women have that equals hunting and I can't. Something that is a hobby but women insist that they are entitled to do it for day's at a time away from their spouse no matter what else is going on in life.
I know that people in other areas of the US or other countries might not get it, but in some states it is a given right that men will spend four weekends in a row away from their wives hunting. It doesn't matter who is sick, what else is happening, who is in town, whose birthday it is. The man MUST go hunting. Literally it is as if it is an imperative and for a woman to even try to suggest he not go would be like turning the order of the universe on its ear.
And I think I want my hunting. I want the god given right to go out in the woods for a month worth of weekends by myself and be alone, leave the kids and spouse behind and just be in stillness away from the responsibilities of my life. And no one can question me or guilt me out of it. Is that too much to ask for? Seriously.
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I know that people in other areas of the US or other countries might not get it, but in some states it is a given right that men will spend four weekends in a row away from their wives hunting. It doesn't matter who is sick, what else is happening, who is in town, whose birthday it is. The man MUST go hunting. Literally it is as if it is an imperative and for a woman to even try to suggest he not go would be like turning the order of the universe on its ear.
And I think I want my hunting. I want the god given right to go out in the woods for a month worth of weekends by myself and be alone, leave the kids and spouse behind and just be in stillness away from the responsibilities of my life. And no one can question me or guilt me out of it. Is that too much to ask for? Seriously.
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Why not go hunting with him? You can have your slice of the woods, he can have his, and you can spend evenings together at deer camp.
Best of both worlds.
Dinner tonite, fresh venison loins wrapped in bacon and grilled to medium rare.
Best of both worlds.
Dinner tonite, fresh venison loins wrapped in bacon and grilled to medium rare.
Really? 250,000 thousand people killed about 40,000 deer in Kalifornia last year. :scratchhead:I'm happy I live in CA. None of that where I live.
I dont hunt nor do three quarters of my male friends. You do have a god given right to do as you wish. Your theories have taken a blow.
I would suggest you are living your life on someone elses terms and resent others whom do not.
Stop that. Its liberating.
I would suggest you are living your life on someone elses terms and resent others whom do not.
Stop that. Its liberating.
Weird, I grew up with both men AND women who hunt. It was never my thing, but really, it wouldn't bother me if my husband were to choose to take up hunting. But that's just me...
Yea. Not where I live. No one I know. Which was what I said in my post. "Not where I live".Really? 250,000 thousand people killed about 40,000 deer in Kalifornia last year. :scratchhead:
I don't even know anyone who owns a gun.
Yea. Not where I live. No one I know. Which was what I said in my post. "Not where I live".
I don't even know anyone who owns a gun.
Roger that. I always associate CA with the good parts to the north. Mt. Shasta in particular.
This country boy doesn't have much use for the big city, although there are plenty of "hunters" there, people hunters that is.
I want the god given right to go out in the woods for a month worth of weekends by myself and be alone, leave the kids and spouse behind and just be in stillness away from the responsibilities of my life. And no one can question me or guilt me out of it. Is that too much to ask for? Seriously.
Shopping maybe? I think it depends on the woman. What I'd like to ask: is when/if, in return, you give your sp her GOD given right to do what she wants for the same length of time, leaving the kids with YOU do do whatever it is she so chooses? If not, then as a W, I'd have a problem with it.
Shopping maybe? I think it depends on the woman. What I'd like to ask: is when/if, in return, you give your sp her GOD given right to do what she wants for the same length of time, leaving the kids with YOU do do whatever it is she so chooses? If not, then as a W, I'd have a problem with it.
This is not my husband, I just got a peek into this life via family members. I was amazed at the "I HAVE to do this attitude." I can't think of another situation for either sex where it's ok to go away and spend nights apart for a hobby. And in some situations the women are not welcome or it's just too crowded.
I guess this is a hypothetical living vicariously situation....just curious what TAM would think.
Going shopping is not an overnight trip, and it isn't for days at a time and it isn't culturally accepted even if it were.
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I guess this is a hypothetical living vicariously situation....just curious what TAM would think.
Going shopping is not an overnight trip, and it isn't for days at a time and it isn't culturally accepted even if it were.
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Where I come from, this happens, but the man MUSTN'T anything. He chooses to go. And his wife agrees. But if the whole family is bed-ridden and he's the only one that can take care of them, he'll stay put like a tree.
And what ever the female equivalent to this might be, depends on the female. Choir practice camp? Organizing that once-a-year volunteer event? Driving to the neighbouring state to attend a marathon? I could go on. (In fact, these are not for females, guys who don't care for hunting can opt for these too.)
If you're the one doing the hunting: If you are really really needed at home, you're not entitled to anything. Tend to your family.
If you're the one sitting at home being bitter: a) Lay down some boundaries with consequences. b) Find your own hobby and expect the same treatment. No excuses. Just hand him the baby and go. (I vote for B btw.)
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Just read it wasn't about you. Anyhow, I'm sticking to my opinion. There is an option like this for women: it's whatever they want to do with their free time. It just takes guts to demand the same treatment —*and to let go of the fear that your spouse will burn down the house while your gone. Imho.
And what ever the female equivalent to this might be, depends on the female. Choir practice camp? Organizing that once-a-year volunteer event? Driving to the neighbouring state to attend a marathon? I could go on. (In fact, these are not for females, guys who don't care for hunting can opt for these too.)
If you're the one doing the hunting: If you are really really needed at home, you're not entitled to anything. Tend to your family.
If you're the one sitting at home being bitter: a) Lay down some boundaries with consequences. b) Find your own hobby and expect the same treatment. No excuses. Just hand him the baby and go. (I vote for B btw.)
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Just read it wasn't about you. Anyhow, I'm sticking to my opinion. There is an option like this for women: it's whatever they want to do with their free time. It just takes guts to demand the same treatment —*and to let go of the fear that your spouse will burn down the house while your gone. Imho.
I will try to explain how it is for ME. Hunting is not a hobby, it is part of who I am and what I do. I AM a hunter.
I hunt many species of animals, and provide food for several disadvantaged families throughout the year.
The time I spend hunting does not take away from any of my other "duties".
Golf is a hobby, bowling is a hobby. If I could never bowl, that would be ok. If I could never hunt, I would be an even meaner, more miserable SOB than I already am.
I hunt many species of animals, and provide food for several disadvantaged families throughout the year.
The time I spend hunting does not take away from any of my other "duties".
Golf is a hobby, bowling is a hobby. If I could never bowl, that would be ok. If I could never hunt, I would be an even meaner, more miserable SOB than I already am.
Depends... if there are no malls or anything nearby and you don't shop online, it COULD be an overnight, or even a week long trip. I still wouldn't do it, but it's not impossible.Going shopping is not an overnight trip, and it isn't for days at a time and it isn't culturally accepted even if it were.
I do agree, however, with the entitled attitude. No one is entitled to taking a vacation (of sorts) away from spouse/family. It would be nice on occasion lol, but not entitled to it.
Right here... Yes, I can totally see this one. But for those who do it just to get away... I have a problem with that. They don't call THOSE ones deer hunters around here... they call them "deer drinkers"I will try to explain how it is for ME. Hunting is not a hobby, it is part of who I am and what I do. I AM a hunter.
I hunt many species of animals, and provide food for several disadvantaged families throughout the year.
The time I spend hunting does not take away from any of my other "duties".
Golf is a hobby, bowling is a hobby. If I could never bowl, that would be ok. If I could never hunt, I would be an even meaner, more miserable SOB than I already am.
I'm trying to think of something that women have that equals hunting and I can't. Something that is a hobby but women insist that they are entitled to do it for day's at a time away from their spouse no matter what else is going on in life.
I know that people in other areas of the US or other countries might not get it, but in some states it is a given right that men will spend four weekends in a row away from their wives hunting. It doesn't matter who is sick, what else is happening, who is in town, whose birthday it is. The man MUST go hunting. Literally it is as if it is an imperative and for a woman to even try to suggest he not go would be like turning the order of the universe on its ear.
And I think I want my hunting. I want the god given right to go out in the woods for a month worth of weekends by myself and be alone, leave the kids and spouse behind and just be in stillness away from the responsibilities of my life. And no one can question me or guilt me out of it. Is that too much to ask for? Seriously.
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We must live in the same region! lol That's what happens here every year. There are a lot of hunting widows. It completely takes over lives. For example, when we were building our house, the brick masons got one-quarter of the house done. At that point they knocked off and went hunting for a couple of months. I've even see people who can't afford the hobby do the same thing. Sadly their families even end up on food stamps. The insanity of it all!
The closest thing I've found to be the female equivalent is horse showing. It dominates from March through September here. It used to be nice when I had money!
BTW, the equivalent is not shopping--no way, no how. We have to take the children with us on those trips. There's never any serenity there!
I will try to explain how it is for ME. Hunting is not a hobby, it is part of who I am and what I do. I AM a hunter.
What is your family situation like? What if your wife said "I am a traveler" and insisted on going on road trips without you for the same length of time that you hunt? Just curious.Steve she would drive across the state to pick up rescue dogs and being them back to a shelter.
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What is your family situation like? What if your wife said "I am a traveler" and insisted on going on road trips without you for the same length of time that you hunt? Just curious.Steve she would drive across the state to pick up rescue dogs and being them back to a shelter.
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I knew guys like this. Unless there was really something wrong, someone seriously ill or a death in the immediate family, they went hunting. However, the spouse clearly knew this about them before marriage. He was the type of guy who would not let anything get in the way of his hunting. If this is not what his wife got into with eyes wide open, that is a problem.
Personally, I see no reason a woman cannot go on her own prearranged "hunting trip". I don't believe there is anything wrong with it.
Personally, I see no reason a woman cannot go on her own prearranged "hunting trip". I don't believe there is anything wrong with it.
I have been a hunter much longer than being a husband/father/lover etc. Things like this should be discussed PRIOR to any long term commitments.I will try to explain how it is for ME. Hunting is not a hobby, it is part of who I am and what I do. I AM a hunter.
What is your family situation like? What if your wife said "I am a traveler" and insisted on going on road trips without you for the same length of time that you hunt? Just curious.Steve she would drive across the state to pick up rescue dogs and being them back to a shelter.
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If a potential mate had said she was a (whatever) and I didn't or wouldn't agree or conform, she would no longer be considered a potential mate.
The reverse holds true as well.
I came across a black female biker club the other day. Buncha women on their ricers. They ride any weekend weather permits. Maybe more women could do that.
:iagree::iagree:I have been a hunter much longer than being a husband/father/lover etc. Things like this should be discussed PRIOR to any long term commitments.
If a potential mate had said she was a (whatever) and I didn't or wouldn't agree or conform, she would no longer be considered a potential mate.
The reverse holds true as well.
Not to mention that you DID mention that the meat you get also goes to feed families who can't afford to buy much food, etc. I would assume there is a lot of small game in there as well?
If my husband was going off every weekend to target shooting, I would not be ok with that. If he were going and shooting animals to provide meat for us, and likely other families, I would support that with no problem.
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