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Same thing can be said about your narrow concept of marriage, try out different women in the market and throw them out if you don't like. Women on the other hand behave like loose gold diggers, sleeping around till they find a rich fool who will be emotionally blackmailed into sharing his wealth. To top it all off socialist, feminist, kangaroo courts that are stuck in 16th century catholic concept of 'community property'

Results are even worse, ~60% divorce rate (including cohabitation), < 2 fertility rate (less than 0.25 in San Francisco county white women) , 22% rate of clinical depression among white women, 80% of divorces initiated by women, > 40% of childbirths outside marriage, 30% children raised by single mom's etc.

I will take India's 0.25% divorce rate or the 0.3% I measured in my community any day. The women are quite happy being treated as 'commodities' like you call them. Our 'commodities' have post graduate education and work in high paying jobs or have their own businesses and their parents are providing them more than enough 'wealth'.
0% of our commodities call 911 to report spousal abuse, < 1% of children are born outside marriage, < 1% depression rate among commodities and life-long marriages are the norm among our 'commodities'
You clearly hardly know any women then. Your attitudes towards women are archaic. Your women often have very little choice but to stay in stray in often abusive marriages. They have little choice but to put up with bad treatment.
You are typical of men in such cultures.
 

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Lets see, that's the norm in the Middle East, South Asia, parts of East Asia, several communities in Eastern and Central Europe as well as some communities in America. We are talking about ~30% of the worlds population.
But, if I understand correctly, you live in the USA and your family came from somewhere in Eastern Europe 150 years ago. So you are basically a part of general American culture.

Why do these young fellows even want to marry at all? It seems that having children would be off the table, because that would imply some form of support for the mothers, if they are expected to bear and possibly contribute to care of children - which would interfere with them "feeding themselves."
 

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Our 'commodities' have post graduate education and work in high paying jobs or have their own businesses and their parents are providing them more than enough 'wealth'.
0% of our commodities call 911 to report spousal abuse, < 1% of children are born outside marriage, < 1% depression rate among commodities and life-long marriages are the norm among our 'commodities'
So the women's parents are providing them with wealth for their lifetimes, and they all have post graduate degrees, high paying jobs or own businesses (obviously not bearing and raising children) AND are not depressed. They also don't report spousal abuse.

Sounds like they are thriving beautifully in the absence of functional husbands.

You fellows just keep on burying your gold.
 

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Which is why I said, "So your money is more important to you than your body."
Bodies have such little worth these days they are given freely to 2am "dtf" dm's in snapchat.

Family is more important than either. Money is valuable only insofar as it provides a stable home with all of the necessities for that family to grow and prosper. Money is also a legacy to the next generation. My body is only valuable in its ability to labor for the resources the family needs, to protect that family from the dangers in the world, and to sacrifice it if necessary for the family's future.

Family is above all. Money and Body are more important than those who would seek to break the family apart, and both should be protected for the family's sake from such an occurrence.
 

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I SO love this title!!!! and the 20 pages of replies with people losing their minds over it! Love to see this in the ladies section and switch the man for the woman and see how that goes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To recap, "What is his is hers! What is hers is hers!"
 

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I SO love this title!!!! and the 20 pages of replies with people losing their minds over it! Love to see this in the ladies section and switch the man for the woman and see how that goes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To recap, "What is his is hers! What is hers is hers!"
I dint see why the advise would be any different no matter which sex it was.
 

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You clearly hardly know any women then. Your attitudes towards women are archaic. Your women often have very little choice but to stay in stray in often abusive marriages. They have little choice but to put up with bad treatment.
You are typical of men in such cultures.
Really?? Can you explain why 'our' people settled in the US for centuries see such a low divorce rate and close to zero spousal abuse complaints? Its condescending to think a post-grad educated woman in a corporate job cannot dial 911 or rent a single bedroom apartment and move out.
 
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