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Life just gets to complex and fried brains (overload) no help

Situation:

Wife has neighbor/friend with MAJOR lack of judgement regarding social interactions.
Wife and neighbor often do activities (mostly daytime) together.
Wife and neighbor have a routine "Friday night movies get together" majority at our house as I have an AWEsome home theater set up - best in the neighborhood.
Sometimes wife goes to neighbors house (27 inch tv and dvd player set up) with 3 big dogs, cigarettes (we don't smoke)

One Friday she says "Going for movies tonigh at <neighbor>s"
No problem - I can entertain myself easy enough.

One o'clock rolls around - no wife. ???!!
TWO o'clock - no wife. Me? WTF??!! is going on (reference comment about social stuff above)
THREE - I and very nervous and thinking of calling as my suspicions are running rampant.
Ok - fuse finally blows @ 0400 - and I call her CELL number and ??? She sees the house number caller id and decides to hotfoot home. I was not nice. Of course SHE is pissed I con't TRUST her.
(note in above post - she has that "cheaters seed" in her personality.
OK - to make my point I confiscate her panties when she jumps in the shower (think Checkmate)
and she goes Whammo Ballistic. Too Bad - they are GOING to get inspected later.
Cue seveal days of coldness. She has not EXCUSE other than "we lost track of time." right, NOT!

Inspection came out clean ( used a condom?) - but my lack of trust based on years of "doing as I please" behavior was well noticed.

Guess what? Your Monday night not coming home just validated my continuing lack of trust in your judegment and also your respect for me as your spouse.

Passing though - amazing how life can turn to crap in a moment. Or a long evening -

Hope my long post clears up the question.

How much do I trust her now? She is 5'9" and about 150 I guess (nice padding!!) - I trust her about as far as I could throw her. I can carry a bag of cement (94 lbs.) no problem - her? not so much
WTF is your wife doing at a male neighbors house watching movies at all, let alone until 4am?! You can't really be this dumb right? Sorry, you have no real boundaries and this is what you get for it. And you aren't going to do a damn thing except more of the same, nothing. Honestly you might as well just not be married. You wife doesn't appear to be.

ETA: just saw that it is a female friend. Changes things a little, but not much. Still still appears to have zero respect for you, maybe less than zero.
 

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Well once again I guess I"m obtuse. 2 girls get together and chat or watch movies til late and this is some huge deal?

Have I ever chatted with a friend a lot longer than anticipated? yes.
Do I sometimes lose track of time? yes.
Do I text my husband sometimes certainly before 4 am BUT anytime he's wondering where I'm at he also texts or calls me and he can find my location anytime he wants.

You BOTH have **** communication techniques and styles.
Could she be cheating, yes. Do I think she's cheating, I don't know. I do know what's been presented here doesn't seem like any smoking gun.

Also about the hospital thing.
So a widower of your wifes best friend HAS TO HAVE an adult drive them home from surgery. Around here the hospital WILL NOT allow anyone to have surgery without someone checking them in that is responsible for checking them out. You are not allowed to use an Uber or Lyft as you that person is supposed to stay with you for x amount of time. This is the rules.

As the dead wife's best friend I don't see this as abnormal. We haven't heard anything about the 'girlfriend' I mean they are labeled girlfriends for reasons. Like I haven't been going out with him long and don't feel comfortable being a care giver. He hasn't even come close to committing and I have a life so I'll see him when he gets better. Girlfriend/Boyfriend isn't married. Doesn't mean reliable, willing or able. It can but doesn't have to mean that. Even some spouses can't be relied on. I wouldn't hesitate to help someone with this if they asked. ESPECIALLY if they were older and the widower of my best friend. Again if I wasn't home by the time my husband got off work, he would call me and ask me how's it going, my plans for coming home and if I wanted him to bring me dinner, or actually he'd just assume he was bringing dinner and ask me what I want then he'd come over and help. So why didn't you call when you first started to get irritated? Why did it not occur to you to help? It seems her independence may be part of you and her relationship style.

I see everyone telling you she's cheating and disrespecting you and to divorce.
That is certainly an option. But I find imperfect people come here and are told to expect their spouses to be perfect after being 'told' to do so. It feels like your relationship style is different than most and that you two have built more of an independent relationship style than many. You seem to get upset but don't do normal things that many people do that would circumvent the situation and then just explode. Frankly the confiscating of the underwear is also a big red flag. Did you use the find your phone to see if she was at the neighbors? Do you think she's doing the husband with the wife home? while possible not likely which means you are doing this stuff kind of over the top.

I think you two do need to learn a style of communication and boundary setting much better than you have. I think you both could use some professional help but many professionals may not be equipped to deal with you two.

Does your wife ever complain you aren't affectionate enough? That you don't connect with her?

I do know that in the divorce she'd be entitled to 50% and alimony if you continue to work. I do know that it sounds like she would have no trouble finding a replacement. While she's 70, she still likes sex, likes to go hunting, fishing and such and is still good looking with big breast the apparent number one quality men look for..... You may have no trouble finding another woman as apparently at this age there are plenty of desperate women. BUT I don't know too many that want to fish, boat, have lots of sex and are fit with large breasts. I wish you luck. I hope you figure out how to get what you want in life. You still have anywhere from a 1 day to 50 years left. Figure out how to get what you REALLY want. First figure out what you want... Then have a plan to get that. A realistic plan. Don't let me or anyone else make you think you have to do xyz.
 

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So why test her panties? - zero trust for type of incident

why wait til 4 am to call? - patience - hoping what I'm thinking isn't true and also
she would come home w/o me calling

you seem to avoid and then explode. - seems that way but the issue and some others that can be all called selfish behaior and lack of respect for marraige vows has been hashed over 50 times at least

while you two can discuss money, you know the court decides in a divorce unless it’s uncontested right?

IF she decides we will split or if I do - not going to sweat division of $$$
 

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The staying out all night with out communication is a definite RedFlag...

I'm not sure why she doesn't think this is an ìssue unless she is actually doing something behind your back...

I would get hold of her phone and do some digging...

Jim007 (reminds me of spaceghost)
we have same passcode for cell phones
I am admin on her PCs (technical support)
We have Google location services "ON" and also Life360 on phones.
Other than the incident (!!) that prompted me asking TAM for a sanity check (Am I wrong
to be pissed?) - I don't think she is up to no good. But if she is, would need a PI to follow
 

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"So you are supposed to believe the girlfriend just didn’t show, didn’t call or text them, and in turn they didn’t think to contact her and see what’s up? Then she just sat on the sofa all night with the pets…ughhh. "

Trying to swallow that story - a bit like choking on a bite of steak and needing someone to perform Heimlich maneuver on me!
 

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I really doubt there is a chance for that to occur!!! (ROFL!) - if you saw him and had a 5 minute conversation - you would get the picture. :ROFLMAO:
So I’m the case of that instance you were only mad because she stayed out late next door. That one isn’t a big deal. I would have let that one slide without issue.

No need to beat the hornets nest.
 

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So, is this neighbor a woman or a man? If a man, WHY would you agree to let that Friday night movies thing become normal without you ALWAYS involved?
And yeah your wife has **** boundaries.
Neighbor is 50+ year-old woman - who works 3 jobs to support house. Husband "races cars" and runs a small car repair business.

I choke on the thought of watching Greys Anatomy or Hallmark. Would rather endure a rock salt and iron filings enema!
 

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Sun Mars:

How much sex does she throw your way?
I am talking, how much, lately? - Life in that department has been Ok - no complaints - but Now that Monday night has transpired - that chapter is up for revision

I need ask, "What will push you to divorce this woman?" - She threatened to move out - that would start the process - what else? I am not sure just yet
 

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Sun Mars:

How much sex does she throw your way?
I am talking, how much, lately? - Life in that department has been Ok - no complaints - but Now that Monday night has transpired - that chapter is up for revision

I need ask, "What will push you to divorce this woman?" - She threatened to move out - that would start the process - what else? I am not sure just yet
Your wife was just running her mouth with that comment. She isn’t going anywhere and was just giving you some pushback. I would imagine she is very accustomed to pushing you into a corner where you behave again.
 

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post # 122 - well said
I don't or would not have had an issue with what happend IF I had been appraised. I found out after Sunrise on Tuesday.

"Does your wife ever complain you aren't affectionate enough? That you don't connect with her? "

I have no number for the times I have asked her to talk to me about anything bothering her.
Best I get is DARVO or just a smart-ass quip.
 

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Ok old son. Guess what this is really boling down to, based on your responses is this. Your sick and tired of being sick and tired. You wake up one day, look at the stuff that has now owned your home, look at a woman ya been married to so long ya can't remember the first date and think...who the hell is she? You step outside look around and start thinking what the eff happened? Thought I'd done went and made it! Grew up so poor that dirt was a dessert and now I can afford anything and my life sucks! I feel like I have just wasted my life chasing my tail. Now what the hell do I got to show for it? Standing here frustrated and miserable, pissed off half the time and disgusted the other half. Life feels like utter chaos not calm and soothing. Yet at the end of the thought path is this woman you love, or think you do. Yet you remember a long time ago, she did something shes never told you the truth about. Something that has spent a life time festering away deep inside. Thought it'd go away, yet never did. Shes always shown others what you wanted from her. You feel like a home base for her to live her life from not a happy loving couples life. As the years have gone by, ya convinced yourself its gonna get better, times on your side. Now your at the other end of time, standing there with all this s**t rolling around wondering how the hell ya let it get to this? Ya just wanna let it go, find something new, but afraid its to late, this is just the way it is and gonna have to deal with it. Knowing that for more years to come, yer gonna have to just suck it up in silence and live with that image of what love and devotion is because this is just your lot in life. That this is how it has to be.
I hit that wall @ShatterdKat, at 38 years as well. Had a lot of these feelings. What I did after years of therapy, MC and finally getting a hand on some mental illness of my own was this. I listened to my own inner voice and greatly to what folks here pointed out as truth in life. I finally drew the line and understood if I was going to save my marriage, if it was worth saving, I was going to have to be willing to lose it. Tha hell with how long we'd been together! I wasn't happy at all. I gotta lot of good years left in me and I didn't wanna be miserable all those years. I did the unthinkable. Saw a lawyer got the papers for D and S set up, then had THE talk with the wife, in which I presented her with the paper work and gave her only 2 directions to go. That choice was now, not tomorrow or in a week. She made a decision and we have literally went 180° now from the way things were. I can say for the first time in over 20 years I feel happy and in a healthy and productive relationship! Even our therapist is amazed now. Thing is, old son, I HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE!
 

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Well a post on what's up

She is gathering all the Barbie doll stuff and ??? - we have a storage shed with room to stuff it all.
so for now bags and boxes going there.

She cleaned the kitchen AM today - very unusual

I've asked the USPS Parcel delivery truck driver, UPS, FEDEX,DH,Amazon driver the question:
"Do you have a special button for <our house> (using our last name)" At least I get a laugh from them!
Yesterday the 3rd sewing machine she bought - returned to Amazon. Several boxes delivered yesterday and so far today - now sitting unopened by the door - I'm expecting her to "return."

My interpretation is like the Kid who doesn't like the way play is going so has a fit and "takes his ball home." Just wrong attitude

She has a neice - about 60 years old - that I have made aware of Missy Wife's recent activity.
She will, in nicest possible terms, share with some of family.

All of my family is decease other than two offspring. All friends I have, not into drama or emotional stuff. Beer and Fishing and Ballgames- "You're on!"
 

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I agree with your post 99% - and 'options' pretty much as you wrote -


re-iterating
Saying out till 4 AM - trigger due to previous PA years ago
Staying OVERNIGHT w/o telling me her plans? HUGE Trigger - same reason

I have been burned a lot by putting to much trust in people so my "caution factor" and tolerance for behavior showing lack of integrity - just plain low.

I was thinking earlier - when we got together and for decades she never "got into" anything other than going places and doing stuff. This hoarding and $$$ in "hobbies" started five so years ago.

the travel trailer/now craft shop - has just been sitting for a couple years
this "Barbie doll" episode - six months and I asked MULTIPLE times to quit cluttering up the house.

Ignored

I guess my mental stability some what like the Earth's crust. Stable till one day "Earthquake"
Or should it be Earth Quack? :)
 

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Well old son, I can say I was headed your way as well. Had a house fire in 2017. All the crap my wife says she wasn't hoarding, well it all went away. With the new home I flat told her we did it your way the last 28 years, now its my way period. Have kept my word on that.
 
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