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I thought it would be neat to start a thread for all the new singles here at TAM. As we all know it is hard for others to understand what we have been through without experiencing it themselves. So this thread is a place to discuss moving forward with life. Meeting new people, dating (when and how) and who knows maybe maybe someone will make a connection here. Anyway this is just a place to share your experiences and get and give advice for others.
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Glad that you appreciate that quality in a man TooNice. It's frustrating to find someone like you in my city. Reminds me of this lady I added as a friend on FB, we got along fine but me not being financially motivated was a dealbreaker for her, even though I made it clear I enjoy what I do, but after adding me on facebook and finding out I'm owner/MD of my own hospitality chain she wanted to date again... NO THANKS!

*sigh*
If you had acted like you enjoy your work but not bothered with money and she doesn't a financially irresponsible man , you can't blame her for not warming up to you. She may not be a gold digger but who just want a financially responsible man.

After my own experience, a man who is financially not stable or responsible is a deal breaker. And I am no gold digger.

I suppose you can tell the difference.
I do over analyze everything!!
Working on mindful meditation :)


EDIT: Which is an indication that I should totally END things with him... I am investing myself too much. FFS! I even unfriended him from FB....
I was soooo close to ending things, but then he called me and is acting normal again... I want to keep having fun!
I've done these very things as you :eek: I often run, when the first sign of something being off ...appears. It's a terrible way to go through dating, by making men climb walls that just get taller every day. I'd enjoy this time with him, and if he truly gives you a reason to question, then question. But, don't make up things in your head because you're scared. This is a time to break out of your comfort zone. I may have broken off my engagement in part due to fear...but I don't regret it, mainly because we weren't right for each other, I've come to learn. But, now I'm dating someone and again, those fears are creeping back...and the desire to stop and run is coming back into my head. I'm not going to run though, and neither are you! :D We owe it to ourselves to stop acting like this, and stop worrying that someone is going to hurt us, if we get too close.

((hugs))
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If you had acted like you enjoy your work but not bothered with money and she doesn't a financially irresponsible man , you can't blame her for not warming up to you. She may not be a gold digger but who just want a financially responsible man.

After my own experience, a man who is financially not stable or responsible is a deal breaker. And I am no gold digger.

I suppose you can tell the difference.
She warmed up to me only after adding me on FB and finding out my role so no thanks! Besides the impression I paint is that of non-material man who is responsible for his finances and daughter, only thing I hide is my title and certain responsibilities that are a give away.

However financially stability means different things to different women, for many, it's all based on numbers, not the quality of the man himself. As I mentioned, even though I hide my finances I don't portray myself as a bum. The numbers I 'imply' are that of a man who already earns more than 50% of Australians, however, if she can't love me at that income I do not expect her to love me when I earn more than 96% in the whole fking country.
I suppose your gut tells you she's after gold.
It appalls me when younger men are looking for cougars for financially stability or for a roof over them.

I look young for my age but I would never play the cougar role.

I am working my azz off feeding my boys. N having paid debts for my ex for that long, i will never pay a dime for another man, ever. I think a man should pay for his woman. Ok. I am traditional. I know.
Moody

Just work n helping son with major exam coming up.

N ex is quibbling over child support when I pursue via lawyers. He's embarrassing himself.

After my son's exam, I think I will hit the pub n dance on the table. N see if anyone try to hit on me. Lol.

Sigh. Meantime, dream on
Calling out all the angels... jk

However, I do have a question. I have not exactly encountered this before.

So since Sunday and yesterday, the hot guy was not receptive. His texting seemed cold. So I did not follow up at all.
This morning, he is back to normal? What gives? I never did have the conversation with him regarding "moving too fast"

So question is: Why do some men act detached, then back to normal?
This it totally normal behavior for some men including myself. I know that I'm not always in the mood to talk, socialize, or respond to texts (especially with women that aren't at girlfriend status yet), and women could easily overanalyze that as being about them when it just isn't. Two days ago I got a text from a woman that I totally ignored simply because I was pissed off that my kids came to me overtired (yet again) and super grumpy. The XWW can't seem to understand that kids need bedtimes to function properly, and after dealing with that situation I'm not very chatty with anyone. Fortunately, the woman that texted me understood. But if she didn't, then no biggie.
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This it totally normal behavior for some men including myself. I know that I'm not always in the mood to talk, socialize, or respond to texts (especially with women that aren't at girlfriend status yet), and women could easily overanalyze that as being about them when it just isn't. Two days ago I got a text from a woman that I totally ignored simply because I was pissed off that my kids came to me overtired (yet again) and super grumpy. The XWW can't seem to understand that kids need bedtimes to function properly, and after dealing with that situation I'm not very chatty with anyone. Fortunately, the woman that texted me understood. But if she didn't, then no biggie.
Then why not just respond and say, "I'm not in the best mood right now, so let's catch up later"? This is what causes women to overanalyze and it makes us crazy. If you're not in the mood to talk, just tell us, because otherwise we're going to think it's something much, much worse. Like you're busy fvcking another woman.

See what I did there?

Communication is key, people.
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Fip

Totally agreed

Not good to imagine your potential interest fuzking someone.
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I actually have gotten A LOT better at not jumping to conclusions regarding texting. I used to be so bad.

hot guy's and I texting has dwindled dramatically... usually just good morning and a few texts in the evening. He does send me "Thinking of you"
yesterday I sent him a "Thinking of you" text, he replied with "I am always thinking of you" I felt it was taken right out of the player's handbook....

Anyway...

Last night I had a crisis regarding my brother. Long story short. His mental process is not logical because of the drugs he does. Anyway, brother wants to get a gun, which I would normally have no objections, however.... I feel he should not get a gun.

I did not know what to do. I was desperate.... I am serious....

I talked to brother, told him I thought the gun was a bad idea because of his irrational thinking (we had conversations n the past about this)..... Just a bunch of BS.... Seriously stuff. I am afraid he might hurt himself or others.

I could call the police? I could call who???? Who may I call??? brother is 30 years old. He confides in me. I am one of two people he confides in!!!!

Anyway.... (hot guy works at a gun shop) I called him and asked for advice.... He told me to call the store brother is purchasing gun and tell them NOT to sell to him.

I am doing it..... He said, they sometimes get that call, and have to take things seriously.

so.... Any ideas of what else I might do guys and gals? I feel that if I call the cops, I'd be betraying him.

Brother doesn't trust the cops, hates them, has had 2 DUIs, and just recently took a plea deal because he beat up some neighbor. Almost went to jail because of that incident...

On the other hand... he can hide his irrational beliefs.... so mandatory psychiatric ward is out of the question because "he doesn't have a problem" and "is handling **** like a boss!"
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Then why not just respond and say, "I'm not in the best mood right now, so let's catch up later"? This is what causes women to overanalyze and it makes us crazy. If you're not in the mood to talk, just tell us, because otherwise we're going to think it's something much, much worse. Like you're busy fvcking another woman.

See what I did there?

Communication is key, people.
Thanks FIP - That's an excellent suggestion and one I'd do for a girlfriend. But if she's not at girlfriend status then does it matter what else I'm doing with my time and should I have to explain it to her? If one of my buddies texts me and I don't respond, he'll just figure I'm busy and it's not a big deal. I've also always figured that the early part of dating is when you set up the relationship rules and boundaries. If I have a very busy life and don't want to be at someone's beck and call then early on I establish that I don't work that way by not being readily available. Hmmm, maybe this is something I need to improve on and can handle better.
@ne9907 you should call the police and get some general information since the laws in each state are different. Depending on what criminal history he has, he might not pass a background check already. I'm fully supportive of people's rights to legally own firearms but if there is a legitimate reason like mental illness, drug use, history of violence, etc. that they shouldn't have them then you have an absolute obligation to do something.
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Thanks FIP - That's an excellent suggestion and one I'd do for a girlfriend. But if she's not at girlfriend status then does it matter what else I'm doing with my time and should I have to explain it to her? If one of my buddies texts me and I don't respond, he'll just figure I'm busy and it's not a big deal. I've also always figured that the early part of dating is when you set up the relationship rules and boundaries. If I have a very busy life and don't want to be at someone's beck and call then early on I establish that I don't work that way by not being readily available. Hmmm, maybe this is something I need to improve on and can handle better.
Put that way, it sounds like you're playing games.

Women are looking for men who treat them with respect. "Ignoring" my text completely for a day or more is flat out rude. It takes what, 10 seconds to send a text? We get it. You have a life, a life which doesn't revolve around a brand new person you just started dating. But you can't spare even 10 seconds to text to say now isn't a good time?

That says to me, this guy doesn't really care if he impresses me, and this guy doesn't respect me enough to respond in a timely fashion. He's either putting in the bare minimum so that I'll fvck him, or he doesn't have time/space for another person in his life.

I'd be saying "Next!" pretty damn quick.

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And I'll also add this: of course your buddies won't be bothered if you don't respond because they're your buddies and they know you. They're secure in their relationship with you, and they know, "hey, this is just how BananaPeel is." A new female acquaintance isn't going to know that--in fact, a new female acquaintance is evaluating pretty much EVERY interaction you have.

And ignoring her is going to me major strikes against you, bro.

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FIP - I love hearing your perspective, although it is about polar opposite of mine.

I always treat women with respect by being honest about my intentions, so they know what my level of commitment is. I don't try hard to impress women when I date them. I'm just myself and they can like me or not. If they like me and want to spend time with me in the way I'm comfortable with then great, but if not then we aren't a good match and I'll just move to the next one. It's not playing games, just a different way of approaching new relationships than what you subscribe to.

While handling communication my way might be a strike against me, it is true to my personality and I'm secure with that. I don't have a background in psychology but if you subscribe to Esther Perel's (author of mating in captivity) line of thinking, not having a high level of commitment will actually attract women rather than drive them off. It really doesn't make sense to me.
Put that way, it sounds like you're playing games.

Women are looking for men who treat them with respect. "Ignoring" my text completely for a day or more is flat out rude. It takes what, 10 seconds to send a text? We get it. You have a life, a life which doesn't revolve around a brand new person you just started dating. But you can't spare even 10 seconds to text to say now isn't a good time?

That says to me, this guy doesn't really care if he impresses me, and this guy doesn't respect me enough to respond in a timely fashion. He's either putting in the bare minimum so that I'll fvck him, or he doesn't have time/space for another person in his life.

I'd be saying "Next!" pretty damn quick.

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Well, even though I normally say that texts can't be expected to be responded to immediately all the time, past the 24 hour mark is... a rather clear sign they aren't interested.

Don't get worked up about it though, most people just do not understand courtesy, so don't expect it, that way, you are never disappointed, only impressed.
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FIP - I love hearing your perspective, although it is about polar opposite of mine.

I always treat women with respect by being honest about my intentions, so they know what my level of commitment is. I don't try hard to impress women when I date them. I'm just myself and they can like me or not. If they like me and want to spend time with me in the way I'm comfortable with then great, but if not then we aren't a good match and I'll just move to the next one. It's not playing games, just a different way of approaching new relationships than what you subscribe to.

While handling communication my way might be a strike against me, it is true to my personality and I'm secure with that. I don't have a background in psychology but if you subscribe to Esther Perel's (author of mating in captivity) line of thinking, not having a high level of commitment will actually attract women rather than drive them off. It really doesn't make sense to me.
I suppose it really depends on 1) what type of woman you want to attract, and 2) what stage the relationship is in.

If you display a high level of commitment early, we all know that's a red flag, so that would be bad. But you can't maintain a low level of commitment for an extended period of time if you want a LTR. If someone consistently demonstrated low level of commitment to me, I'm walking out the door--if I don't see reciprocal interest, I lose interest pretty quickly.

And keeping a woman constantly unsure of where she stands with a man sounds an awful lot like red pill thinking.
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@ne9907 you should call the police and get some general information since the laws in each state are different. Depending on what criminal history he has, he might not pass a background check already. I'm fully supportive of people's rights to legally own firearms but if there is a legitimate reason like mental illness, drug use, history of violence, etc. that they shouldn't have them then you have an absolute obligation to do something.
I think this is good advice. The police (hopefully) will know what the best course of action is.
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It appalls me when younger men are looking for cougars for financially stability or for a roof over them.

I look young for my age but I would never play the cougar role.

I am working my azz off feeding my boys. N having paid debts for my ex for that long, i will never pay a dime for another man, ever. I think a man should pay for his woman. Ok. I am traditional. I know.
Many men are boys looking for a new mummy, just as many girls are looking for their sugar daddies. Both sicken me, as I've been working and supporting myself since I was 12.

But the question is, is that enough? What if that man is still in the early stages of his career, what if he lacks education not because he's lazy or stupid but because he was forced to work at a young age? I was that man.

Yet despite my meagre income, I never once asked her for money, and having no fallback plan for emergencies (no family for example), I was very responsible with my finances - still to this day. I was also sole provider for the entirety of my marriage, and I succeeded from very humble origins, because I found the right woman at that time - a woman who inspired success in a man, rather than a woman who looks for success.

And people wonder why I reject gold diggers. If I was born rich, spoiled, and never had a hard life, sure I can accept them. But having been born into a broken family, dragged along the streets struggling to survive, I despise people who inherit success, rather than work for it.

Also lot of people say money is a major problem in many relationships, and so they reckon having more money is going to solve it... pffft! The problem will persist regardless of the money, and may even be worse.
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@ne9907 you should call the police and get some general information since the laws in each state are different. Depending on what criminal history he has, he might not pass a background check already. I'm fully supportive of people's rights to legally own firearms but if there is a legitimate reason like mental illness, drug use, history of violence, etc. that they shouldn't have them then you have an absolute obligation to do something.
I called the gun store where brother is purchasing gun. I spoke with the manager, since the owner was not there today. The owner is supposed to call me tomorrow.

The manager was helpful yet not overly. Said, the owner was the one who will ultimately make a decision, which is understandable.

After reviewing the conversation I had with brother and our text messages, I think he will do something stupid if he does get a gun.

If the owner cannot help, I will call a crisis support center....

He can legally get a gun because he has not had any felonies.... just misdemeanors...

I know I am probably burning my relationship with brother. He will hate me for going against his wishes.... I know.

He complains that we (sisters and I) are always in his business and worry too much about him. Well, I told him, stop acting like a stupid person and we will not! .....

THis knowledge is rather sad, because he is the only brother I get along with. I love him very much. My two older brothers I cannot stand.... (personal reasons).

I seriously do not know what to do. I will expect the worse but hope for the best with brother. I am about to just let him do whatever sh!t he pleases.... and watch his life go down in flames... I cannot do anything to help him!
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