[thenub]

I think if you went into the phone setting and made sure wifi, cellular and Bluetooth were turned of there could be no notification sent from the phone.


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[melis38]

if there were no Wi-Fi then I wouldn't be able to download it since it is no longer part of the network. mmm I might have to think of another way. thank you

 

[She'sStillGotIt]

@melis38, DrFone is run on your computer, not the phone.You install it on your computer and you hook the phone up to your computer via a USB cable.

The software on your computer simply looks at the data on the phone and shows on your computer screen whatever deleted texts it was able to retrieve. There's no 'alert' message sent to anyone about the phone being 'used.' And Wifi has nothing to do with it.

I know this for a fact because my husband's phone screen went completely dead like a year ago. Everything was apparently working fine BUT the screen. It's his work phone and he works from home, so he was LOST without all the data and contacts that he suddenly couldn't see any longer. I downloaded DrFone to see what data I could get from his phone so he'd at least have something while he was waiting for a replacement. Everything I was able to get showed up on the computer screen and no 'alerts' were sent to anyone.

 

[melis38]

@She'sStillGotIt. thank you.....do the messages show back up on the phone after I look at it on the program? sorry for the stupid questions but I just want to be sure he doesn't know I looked at it.

 

[The Middleman]

I'm not advertising this product, but just want to point this out. Has anyone seen this yet? Brilliant idea.

https://thegadgetmole.com/pages/usbspycamera

 

[fotf17]

Hey all,

So I had a few questions I was wondering if anyone here could answer. For background, I'm relatively comfortable with technology, and know my way around, but I'm not super savy or tech sophisticated in any way - I understand how things generally work, but am limited in knowledge. So, a few questions if you don't mind:

• - Are there programs or apps out there that can mask a phone number on one's bill, or make it looks like it comes from a different area code? Do they affect texting and/or voice calls?
  
• - Is there any way to investigate page views/messaging/etc. via the wi-fi? IP address capturing, that sort of thing? Generally, is that a fruitful way to look into things, or is it relatively limited? I thought I saw something about it earlier on in this thread, but it's so long (and likely out of date I think) that I couldn't track it down.

Much appreciated
Cheers

 

[GusPolinski]

Hey all,

So I had a few questions I was wondering if anyone here could answer. For background, I'm relatively comfortable with technology, and know my way around, but I'm not super savy or tech sophisticated in any way - I understand how things generally work, but am limited in knowledge. So, a few questions if you don't mind:

• - Are there programs or apps out there that can mask a phone number on one's bill, or make it looks like it comes from a different area code? Do they affect texting and/or voice calls?
  
• - Is there any way to investigate page views/messaging/etc. via the wi-fi? IP address capturing, that sort of thing? Generally, is that a fruitful way to look into things, or is it relatively limited? I thought I saw something about it earlier on in this thread, but it's so long (and likely out of date I think) that I couldn't track it down.

Much appreciated
Cheers

To answer both of your questions —

Yes.

With respect to “masking” a number, that can summarily be accomplished via apps like Google Voice, Burner, etc.

Regarding your second question, that can be done — but only to a certain degree — using a packet sniffer on your local network. Setting this up, however, can be somewhat complex.

 

[fotf17]

To answer both of your questions —

Yes.

With respect to “masking” a number, that can summarily be accomplished via apps like Google Voice, Burner, etc.

Regarding your second question, that can be done — but only to a certain degree — using a packet sniffer on your local network. Setting this up, however, can be somewhat complex.

Ok, perhaps let me clarify on the first question - the AP lives in one area code. That area code does not appear on our bill any longer. However, there are a few errant calls and texts from our area code on our bill that I can't account for. Is there any program or platform that would allow someone in one area code to make their communication look like another area code?

As for the second - darn - probably too complicated for me.

 

[GusPolinski]

Ok, perhaps let me clarify on the first question - the AP lives in one area code. That area code does not appear on our bill any longer. However, there are a few errant calls and texts from our area code on our bill that I can't account for. Is there any program or platform that would allow someone in one area code to make their communication look like another area code?

Yes.

Google Voice, Burner (both are apps), etc.

Or, alternately, an actual “burner” phone.

 

[re16]

It is pretty easy to get an idea of what sites are being visited from a network (via computers or phones or tablets etc) via an account with opendns .com and some quick router settings.

This won't show you exactly what pages are visited. As in if they are using a certain chat app or email service, you will see the host being looked up, but not the individual pages that were pulled up.

It is free to setup online, and then you just manually input the two DNS addresses into your router and wallah.

If there is a burner phone being used, a good thing to check is the list of phones that are stored in the vehicle's bluetooth settings, if you see an extra phone, you know something is up.

 

[Chaparral]

Bump

 

[Cynthia]

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[JustinT]

Couple questions. I got the SONY ICD-PX470 and did my first test. It was under the seat. Problem is most vehicles today have the speakers down at the bottom of the door by the floorboards. So the radio was on and it was a pain to hear the voices over the music. Any tips for solving this problem? I also got a lot of static noise. I assume at least one of these problems might be solved with Audacity. Still I am not an audiophile so if you can help with which filters take out the static and maybe boost the voices.My thoughts on the music were to use the fader on the radio to move to other speakers but they will just up the noise. I can also tweak the bass or treble but not sure which is going to make it better.

I because this can never be used in court I need to have other proof. Right now my plan is to find when the meetings will occur so that I can take photos. However, because my spouse parks in a garage at work that you need to badge into this might be a problem. So I am looking to set up a video camera in the car. I need advice only from stuff you have tried not what you have seen on the internet. The camera cannot be discovered. I want to capture if I can the drive and passenger and if possible capture over the drivers shoulder. This would give me a view of the phone which is on lock down. So far the cameras I have seen are all large. The closest thing I can imagine is a flash drive type but not sure on placement of that. Also would be suspicious. The car is a Honda van if that helps.

Last question. I know they are using the calculator+ app to hide probably pictures and apps like WhatsApp or snapchat. I have read that to get access you need to enter an equation. My plan is to get the phone and once I have it I need to password reset. I will have access to the email so I can do that. I was told to do so you just hold down the % button until you get a pop up. I only get one shot at this so has anyone has any success in cracking this app?

 

[justint2019]

I tried to post earlier so if this is a duplicate Mods please delete the first one.

So I need help with the PX 470. I placed under the seat and it works but the problem is that cars these days have that speaker lower in the door that is right next to the VAR. Any tips on how to deal with this. The music is drowning out all the conversation. I also get a lot of static which I assume is just noise from the car moving. I hope that I can Audacity this out. Does anyone have a suggestion for a phone app that does the same thing as Audacity. I don't always have time alone on the computer but can filter files on my phone.

Next question is that I need to be video capable in a Honda van. I am looking for people who have been successful with this. My preference would be over the shoulder so I can get a look at the phone as it is held. I need a tiny camera with long battery and motion activated if possible. Essentially the SONY VAR but video. If I can't get that then I am thinking tiny so that I can position it in a different place and not have it be visible. My spouse finding it is not an option. Basically I think the spouse is meeting in the car and I need to confirm. I believe I can hear kissing but the poor sound quality from the radio makes it dubious. So I need video conformation. I also think there are sexts being sent via snapchat so if I can see the phone to prove it that would be good as well in case there isn't physical activity in the car.

What I don't need is a reply saying if you feel in your gut or you don't trust anyway go get a lawyer. It isn't so simple for reasons I won't go into.

 

[Thor]

For the audio you can put the VAR up under the dashboard. Run an external little microphone to a gap perhaps by the steering wheel column where it comes out of the dashboard. You'll have to plug the mic into the VAR, and then unplug it when you remove the VAR. Use small zip ties to attach the wires to other bundles of wires under the dashboard. Just place the mic where it isn't visible but has a path to hear voices. Use strong velcro to hold the VAR in place behind the dash. One risk with this setup is if the VAR falls out, so be sure it is really secured. Another risk is if anybody looks behind the dash, like a mechanic or a suspicious cheater. Find somewhere you can reach easily with your hand but isn't easy to see without a flashlight and getting your head way back in there.

 

[Cynthia]

What I don't need is a reply saying if you feel in your gut or you don't trust anyway go get a lawyer. It isn't so simple for reasons I won't go into.

If you can afford a PI that would be ideal. The PI could follow the car and take photos.

Do you have children? If you do, you could install a video player in the car and use that as a platform for your surveillance devices.

 

[badbane]

Guys fair warning on using spying software on devices that you do not own. IE your name is on the bill for the device. It is illegal. I am not saying don't do what you have to do. But know installing spyware on a phone you don't know with out the other person knowing and then finding out can go poorly for you. just make sure you have access to be able to burn the phone after you have the evidence you need. also. if you really want to know where you WW spouse is simply install avast antivirus and turn on anti theft. Then you can from the cloud fully utilize camera, audio, and get gps locations. legally all you have to do is tell your spouse you have to install antivirus software on her phone.

for iphones the best option is parsing through a local itunes backup.
for android i highly recommend using avast or other cloud antitheft as you are no going to be landing yourself in hot water.

Also there's a thread in my signature I have kept going for a while.

Also verbal affairs are dying, rightly so.

If you ap's phone number suddenly disappears look for snapchat suddenly being installed on the phone.
Var's believe it or not (low tech as they are) will be a lot easier to track than these new waves of apps. If the affair is to the point where they are swapping videos or pictures.

https://www.androidcrush.com/apps-like-snapchat-alternatives/

If the phone records disappear start trying to sneak onto any and every social media app you can find on their phone.

 

[justint2019]

I wish I could get a PI but she would know right away as we share all info on money. My best hope is to spy now to try to get info on a meeting then get a PI to go just for that time. I can get enough cash for that I just can't get enough for a weeks worth of PI work. Or I can even trail myself if I have an idea of when and where. I hope the VAR gets me this info.

I have tried to mess with the recording setting on the VAR and we will see how that goes. I also have become better at Audacity. It helps with the noise but the radio in the background is something I don't think will get better. Right now I am looking at a video recorder that might be small enough or innocent enough to place in sight. That means it has to have small battery with long life. I am still hoping someone on here has experience with video cameras. We already have a built in DVD player so I can't add anything new like that.

I have no physical access to the phone. So Avast isn't an option. I do have all legal authority so no problem there. I have cell records but my spouse no longer uses the phone or the messanger on the iphone. It is either WhatsApp or Snapchat for calls and texts. There is also a app hider calculator put on there so I can't just look if it is casually handed to me. That is password protected. I do have access to which apps are being downloaded and that is how I know these are on there. My best hope is for the memory to grow so large that my spouse needs to download pictures in which case I can turn on the backup and the location tracking.

I really am in a waiting game. Hoping for a slip up. The best shot I have is the VAR but I am looking for other lines to cast. I have wireshark now but to be honest I have no idea how to use it. I know the phone IP and I am sure that these apps are encrypted so I won't get user name or password but if I could even find out when they are being used to get a pattern so I can figure something out. Any help on wireshark would also be appreciated. The set up at my house is wireless router that all phones use.

 

[eric1]

Wire shark probably will not get you what you need. Your best bet is to get your hands on the phone. Just plain old steal it and drive away.

Obviously perhaps change her email password ahead of time which will allow you to reset in peace.

 

[justint2019]

She has a fingerprint lock on her phone so stealing it won't get me anywhere. I do have access to her old phone which probably has all the passwords and accounts on it. That is an android and also fingerprints but I have heard Drfone can get past that. Plus she never worries about that phone so I have unlimited access to it. Does anyone have experience with DrFone and the free trial. Can you unlock fingerprints on Android with the trial? Also what alerts will she get on her new phone if I turn this one on?