So I read the thread. I am assuming its the one -
https://talkaboutmarriage.com/general-relationship-discussion/439873-would-you-limit-parental-visitation-social-distancing.html
I think you might be a little sensitive because of your own situation. Speaking as a man I didn't see anything or anyone on there advocating for keeping kids away from their Dads just a difficult situation with someone looking for help. In fact some female posters came out very strongly against using this as an excuse for keeping kids away from their parents. No doubt there are bad people (both men and women doing this).
Long diatribe warning, but whatever I am stuck in the house for like 18 months now or whatever so I got time. AND YOU HAVE TIME TO READ IT! :wink2:
I am not accusing you of anything I write here I am just stating my belief.
Look there is Misandry and misogyny and both suck. I don't support Redpill because it's stupid. First of all it judges men by their sex count and sees ****ing women (and I use that word for effect because Redpill thinks about it just as crass) as a way to judge ones worth. In a sense it gives this twisted and corrupt view of women the ultimate power over these men. I mean in the one hand they say how awful women are but in the next they judge themselves by how many of them they can manipulate into having sex with them. It's stupid.
MGTOW, I see no problem with that but I have to be honest haven't looked into it as much. If you don't want to have relationships with women don't it's your life. Enjoy Fortnite on your 75 inch TV. If I was a single guy I would be thinking great less competition. I think they are making a mistake though. It's kind of like throwing the baby out with the bath water as far as I am concerned. I'm married and for the most part I think it has been good for my life. Any difficulties I might have are not because of marriage. Even in my marriage we have difficulties even some very hard ones at times because we are two people trying to live and share a life together. It's not and never was Disney. And you know what if we couldn't get over them we would divorce. But then again I married well, and that was on me. I married a decent person. I also choose someone who had priorities and goals so I know that even if we divorce she will be making her own money she has her own career that she cares about, makes comparable money so I am not going to get screwed. I always stated I am against a spouse being a stay at home parent for a longer then period when the kids are very young. Again that has noting to do with a persons gender, that's about who you marry. If she cheated that would suck, but I am a good husband and there are plenty of other women out there.
My point is having a bad experience in a relationship is because of who you had a relationship with not the gender of the person you had a relationship with. And I got to be honest some of the *******s some of the men (women too but we are talking about men) who come on her decided to have relationships with have me scratching my head. Look there are people you have fun with and people you marry. If you choose to marry an ******* don't be surprised that they continue to be an ******* when you divorce them. All these movements are big on personal responsibility but they never talk about the personal responsibility of marrying someone who already had a ****-ton of problems. Most of these guys who do that are suffering from White Knight syndrome.
But I got to be honest I chalk most of that up to no Father in the home (both for men and women). For 50 years men have failed to accept responsibility for this. As I see it a good father stamps that **** out when the kid is 15 and ****ing around with some POS, but even before that he should be talking to his sons and daughters about what they want in a marriage what their role will be if they are a son, what will be important for their husband if they are a daughter. The way bad men think, the way good men think for both. How you shouldn't judge yourself by the amount of people that choose to have sex with you. How as a man you should judge yourself by your honor in doing the right thing, taking responsibility, supporting your family, making your wife your priority (not your car, or your looks, or your game, or you team, how much money you make, or even your job), and generally being a provider (and that means both financially but also emotionally to a certain extent.) Finally if you do that you can be confident about your worth, and if you are confident make no mistake women will flock to you. And this is the guy who your daughter should be looking for. It ain't about playing games or your frame, or it least it doesn't have to be. Besides most wise men don't want a women who can be so easily manipulated at least not to marry, but hey if your life is about ****ing then yes Redpill works.
That's not to say there isn't some good things. Working hard and making money is good. Being ambitious is good. Taking care of your appearance is good, being confident when you talk to a women is good. But being confident in YOURSELF even if yourself is a nerd; talking to a potential mate and having her respond is a much better thing because it's real and it gives you the potential to have a relationship built on truth. Lifting weights should be done by all men as far as I am concerned as someone who got into it late. There is just something about pushing iron. Crazy but true. Yes ****ing take pride and joy in being masculine but that doesn't mean suppressing your emotions and being tough, it means strong enough to be soft when it is necessary or when it will help someone you care for, with your wife. It means being in control of your emotions.
Yes it's hard being a man (and I that doesn't mean I am saying it's not also being a women) and it's a ****ing goddamn privilege. Being a man is the most important Job/Role you will ever do and can ever do in your life, and you get the chance to do that every ****ing day. Thank God for that!
Let's start that ****ing movement. I will champion that to every young man around.
Finally I have to say from my work, I'm sorry but the Men have got to step it up. I am always constantly impressed by the young women I work with, many of them Mothers, some who I can tell are also having to take too much care of their husbands because of their off handed complaints. They work their asses off, lots of times because have to. Some of them end up doing a lot more work then they should. It is a far smaller pool of men who I see do the same thing. I'm sorry I am just being honest. And if you think I am some kind of modern feminist then you don't read my posts. I think the latest wave of feminism and identity politics and all that is "misguided" to be polite. I could write a whole post about that too.
What I am is someone who believes in women because I have a good Mother, and good Sisters, and good friends and colleagues who I am with every day and they consistently show me how awesome they are. Even many of the poster here, some who I don't agree with a lot and some who I admire greatly. A majority of women in this country (and probably in the world) are ****ing awesome! Yes they are different then us in general and thank God! That is part of what makes them wonderful.
What I would say to all these guys in these groups is first - STOP THINKING OF THEM AS A PATH TO ETERNAL HAPPINESS. Second - STOP LOOKING AT THEIR DESIRE FOR YOU AS A JUDGMENT OF YOUR WORTH. Third - STOP LOOKING AT THEM AS
ONLY A MEANS TO GIVE YOU PLEASURE. Try getting to know them, talk to them, see how they think what they care about, how it's different and how it's the same. If for no other reason that it's fun, but also you can learn from them. You will soon grow to love and respect them if you don't. And you will respect them more if you already do. That is how you find a good partner. They are really one of the best things of this world that God created for all of us. We as men have to stop blaming them for our failures. We ****ing stormed the beaches at Normandy. We ****ing eradicated smallpox. We went to the moon. We wrote Clair De Lune, and The Silmarillion. We need to start acting like men, and that means taking responsibility for this world that we have created. Frankly who cares what women or other men think. Compete, lead, make it better!
I'm sorry some men have had ****ty times with their wives, but that has nothing to do with all women or marriage.
Women ****ing Rock!!!
End of one crazy diatribe from someone who has been working nonstop for 10 days and facing the prospect of being stuck the house for the rest of my life.