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Question for BS - Why stay?

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Not going to post my story, it's too long and I'm not sure if it would make your answers any different since I want the answer from your own perspective and experiences.
I have read 100's of posts on various websites about R. Weeks after R, months, years, decades. And one thing remains with all of the BS. Life does become easier and for the most part many can move on, however, it still hurts like hell. There are still triggers decades later and BS never forget the cruel betrayal inflicted on them. They will always see glimpses of the betrayal and their love/marriage will never be pure again. Forgive yes, forget never.

I do understand this and agree it is totally justifiable to feel this way.

So here is my question, why not just move on then? Why not just leave and find someone who has not done this unthinkable cruel thing to you? Far easier to start over than to try and start over from the ashes of what your WS burned to hell.

Because you love the person that betrayed you or because you loved the person you throught you married?

Don't you want to look at the person you are married to and know that no matter what life threw at you, no matter how bad it got, that your spouse never turned their back on you or the marriage?

God I love my BH so much and I will never quit trying, but I am really struggling with these questions. I will never try to control the outcome and will leave it his decision, but God am I doubting today. Not for me (I'm selfish for asking him to stay with him), but I really wonder deep down in my heart if he would be so much happier starting over.

FWW-42, BH-37
4kids - 2 mine 12 &14, 2 ours 2 & 5
Over year EA/PA
DDay 9/14/12
T-12yrs, M-6yrs
Begging for a second chance.
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Because I have kids and I will be damned if she marries someone else and he is disciplining my kids. I couldn't take it. My kids calling someone else dad.

Also because we have kids, I will have to see her for the rest of my life.

I haven't decided on R or D yet (it has been 5 months) but we are in the same house now because of the kids. Maybe things will work out long term but if I had no children we would never know because I would have packed all her sh!t driven her to her parents house, dropped her off on the front lawn and told her to F Off!

For me if it works long term it is due to the children keeping us together now.
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Fear of being a part time dad, finances, heavily invested emotions, glimpses of woman he loved and was happy with.
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If your the husband you are going to get the short end of the stick so some may choose to stay because their standard of living will be better.
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To me, it was kids. Why should I punish those innocent ones?
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There is no good reason. Reconciliation is irrational act, but then so is marriage these days.
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UW, I'm a long time past the event. And I forgave. Why? Because I love my family, and I love her. We've survived raising a child with mental illness, a child with a serious injury, death of our parents, dementia in a parent. Basically, we've been through life together. And I love her.
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I'm trying for a number of reasons:
- I love her.
- I made a vow before God that even if she s4!t on I won't break without a lot of effort.
- I want to demonstrate to my teenage kids that relationships take work.
- because my WW wife seems truly remorseful and has been making the changes requested.
- because I made mistakes too, nothing as awful, but still. I would want a second chance, so 'do unto others'.

I think if any of these were not at play, I would have kicked her to the curb on Dday. I could deal with her EA, it's the lying that has me all in knots. This is a woman I have my complete trust for the past 21 years, and she lied to me. Point blank to my face. I don't trust her anymore. Not having complete faith in what she says is still very painful.
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27 years together, history, love, sorry, remorse, vows, change, compassion, understanding, forgiveness.
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It's not an easy question to answer - sometimes I ask myself the same. Some days I really don't know the answer, other days I rationalize as follows.

I have 27 years invested in our marriage, that counts for something. We have kids, I believe it is best for them to have both parents present in the family unit. I still love her, just not the infidelity trait that I just discovered recently.

If I were to leave, it would be to live single - seeking out a new partner... well, 50% chance, give and take a few, that I will end up with just another cheat. Might as well work on the relationship with the one, where I am aware of this trait beforehand.

I would have a much more clear answer, if my wife did everything human possible to make up for her mistakes - as is, I just doubt from time to time.
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First and foremost, a new and committed love for my wife

A period of self reflection and empathy for her, understanding how she got to where she was and my part in fostering an environment that made her vulnerable to it.

Absolute resolve to do everything in my power to keep my kids from having to suffer the effects of a failed marriage.

Financially scuttling ourselves.

5+ years post D-Day and doing fine.
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Because I have kids and I will be damned if she marries someone else and he is disciplining my kids. I couldn't take it. My kids calling someone else dad.

Also because we have kids, I will have to see her for the rest of my life.

I haven't decided on R or D yet (it has been 5 months) but we are in the same house now because of the kids. Maybe things will work out long term but if I had no children we would never know because I would have packed all her sh!t driven her to her parents house, dropped her off on the front lawn and told her to F Off!

For me if it works long term it is due to the children keeping us together now.
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because everyone makes mistakes.
not everyone learns from them, but everyone makes them.
either learning from, or the failure to learn from, mistakes and make necessary changes to avoid repeating them, to me, made the difference between me staying and going.
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So here is my question, why not just move on then?

I am only 5 months out right now. If things do not improve mentally for me within 5 yrs.....I will move on. We have three kids 13, 10 and 1. I feel it is in their best interest to try to R. He has had a one time offense. Mutliples would have killed the marriage right away.

Why not just leave and find someone who has not done this unthinkable cruel thing to you?

If I did not have kids, I would have.

Far easier to start over than to try and start over from the ashes of what your WS burned to hell.

Because you love the person that betrayed you or because you loved the person you throught you married?

I love both....he is the father of my kids and we have been married 13 yrs. But that does not change the fact that I am angry at times with him.
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And also.... Your story is not too long.
Post it. It is very cathartic. If you don't wish to post it for other reasons, that is fine. If it seems too long, I wouldn't let that stop you from posting.
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And also.... Your story is not too long.
Post it. It is very cathartic. If you don't wish to post it for other reasons, that is fine. If it seems too long, I wouldn't let that stop you from posting.
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Post your story, the details may reveal more advice for you.
I stay because she is doing everything she can after her four mont EA,even met up with he old high school bf four times in the middle of the day in the wallmart parking lot,four quick peck on the lips and four quick hugs,she was so nervouse she's stay five minutes and run.
She did everything she could to get me out of the house.
She sees what she has done to me and the kids but is so regretful and beating the crap out of herself and she's scared sh!tless I might leave.
Its a constant battle to stay tho.
I f I change my mind she has offered to sign anything stating that she recieve nothing.
She know she did this to me and the kids and it makes her sick,she really was in la la land.
One day I want out and the next I love the hell out of her.
I know she wont do it again.
She loves me and I love her so I have to keep trying,I'm not a quitter,its just so hard.
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I stay because I want to. She has done all that has been asked of her and plenty that hasn't. I have to try to focus on who she is now and not what she did in the past. If it can't be done then we will walk away knowing we tried the best we could have.
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Well, children are a big factor, but there are others.

Right now I am separated and both us give reconciliation no more than a 5% chance. My wife of 13 years had an EA while we were together and, I assume, it is now a PA following our separation. But it is possible. The first thing is that we have never stopped loving each other. That is fundamental. We respect the person within the actions. Second, we are both starting to take ownership of where our relationship went wrong (not the affair, but the prior breakdown). Third, you come to a point - or at least I have - where you just see the frail, flawed, deeply hurt child who is still there in all of us.

When I feel angry with my WW, I picture her at seven years old, rejected by her dad. I see her in her sixteenth year, abused by an adult then discarded. I see the pain I caused her (as we all inevitably do) and I see her struggling to find her own identity. How can I hate that child? That is who she is at the deepest level: We all are. She didn't plan to hurt me. She doesn't want to hurt me now. I forgive her. I profoundly let her go and wish her well.

It may be that we can never live together again. Or we might just regain that spark. I might never be able to bring myself to trust her, and she might never see past my faults. Who knows?

Recently we have shared some brief good moments. An uplifting text here, a hug there, just a smile perhaps. The way I see it, if there is to be any chance we have to start again from scratch. I force myself to look at her as I did when we first met. No expectations, no deadlines, no ultimatums, no baggage. Just two tiny specks on this lonely planet, trying to connect, trying to live as best we can. No cake eating though. She is on benefits and finding things hard. That was her choice and she needs to live with it.

It is a cliché, but letting go and forgiveness are the only way to live FOR YOURSELF. Once BOTH partners recognise that, who knows what will happen.

Like I say, a 5% chance for us at best. But right now it doesn't matter. What I know from the depths of my being is that neither of us will ever share with anyone else the same depth of passion, trust and love that we once had - and two wonderful children. We are linked by an unbreakable love forever.

Good luck!
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