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I’m very sorry if it appears I was insulting nurses in general because I’m not. I was insulting a very specific personality of nurse that I’ve seen occasionally and knew the OP was of that variety.

You know what. You are right though. I am not the one you better be calling if you need an IV placed or blood drawn. I can’t hand out meds because I don’t have access to them. What I can do though is critically evaluate what’s going on with a patient, gather more information if necessary, make a diagnosis, and create a plan of care. Before I went to medical school I also worked as the lone CNA on a huge med-surg floor where I running from room to room all night long. Easiest job I ever had in medicine. Try admitting 20 patients to the hospital, writing detailed H&Ps on all of them all the while cross covering on 100 other patients. That was hard.
 

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My first post to you:
May I ask you what perspective from a man you would agree with? Just curious.
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Can you read? I’ve stated what my feelings are so I’d be assuming that’s what I’d agree with. It’s actually funny, became the very same men that are insulting me, I actually agree with their statements that porn is terrible for a relationship, I just don’t agree with everything they are saying. But instead of trying to understand my perspective as well, they just want to insult me.
Uh, you insulted me.
 

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I’m very sorry if it appears I was insulting nurses in general because I’m not. I was insulting a very specific personality of nurse that I’ve seen occasionally and knew the OP was of that variety.

You know what. You are right though. I am not the one you better be calling if you need an IV placed or blood drawn. I can’t hand out meds because I don’t have access to them. What I can do though is critically evaluate what’s going on with a patient, gather more information if necessary, make a diagnosis, and create a plan of care. Before I went to medical school I also worked as the lone CNA on a huge med-surg floor where I running from room to room all night long. Easiest job I ever had in medicine. Try admitting 20 patients to the hospital, writing detailed H&Ps on all of them all the while cross covering on 100 other patients. That was hard.
That variety? I am a damned good nurse. Do NOT insult me. You do not know me at all. Sorry, I work in a job where not only do the doctors, nurses, MA’s, PA’s, NP’s respect each other and understand that we are all doing our jobs. The doctors also know they could never do it without us. So by telling me as a nurse to go “ push some Venofer” you are contradicting yourself. That’s not how any respectful doctor would talk to a nurse. You insulted me for no reason and now you are implying that because I don’t agree with you on all points, I’m a terrible nurse when you don’t know me at all. You know how I know I’m not a terrible nurse. I love my job. I love my patients and I love what I do. Cancer patients are some of the most inspiring and amazing patients. When I hug someone after they have just rang the bell on their last treatment, I know that I have made even a little bit of a difference.

Yep, I’m out too. Have fun with that.
 

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My first post to you:

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Uh, you insulted me.
How did I insult you? Because I asked you if you could read? That’s not an insult. You came on this thread with a clear indication that you were going to be yet another person coming after me. I knew from that very first post that you weren’t going to be an understanding person.
 

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That variety? I am a damned good nurse. Do NOT insult me. You do not know me at all. Sorry, I work in a job where not only do the doctors, nurses, MA’s, PA’s, NP’s respect each other and understand that we are all doing our jobs. The doctors also know they could never do it without us. So by telling me as a nurse to go “ push some Venofer” you are contradicting yourself. That’s not how any respectful doctor would talk to a nurse. You insulted me for no reason and now you are implying that because I don’t agree with you on all points, I’m a terrible nurse when you don’t know me at all. You know how I know I’m not a terrible nurse. I love my job. I love my patients and I love what I do. Cancer patients are some of the most inspiring and amazing patients. When I hug someone after they have just rang the bell on their last treatment, I know that I have made even a little bit of a difference.

Yep, I’m out too. Have fun with that.
The thing is you come across as extremely entitled and self centered. You keep making comments like “the doctors couldn’t do it without us” while completely ignoring that if it wasn’t for a doctor prescribing that plan your job wouldn’t exist. It goes both ways.
 

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How did I insult you? Because I asked you if you could read? That’s not an insult. You came on this thread with a clear indication that you were going to be yet another person coming after me. I knew from that very first post that you weren’t going to be an understanding person.
You assumed incorrectly. What my hope was when I said, "May I ask you what perspective from a man you would agree with. Just curious", was to get a reply from you that clearly stated the type of answer from a man you would agree with. That's all.

And, yes, asking someone if they can read (when I obviously can as I'm reading and responding in this thread) is insulting.

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Uh, OP has been banned now... lol... what I don't understand here is the stance of no porn when you can't have sex with your wife for a few weeks for whatever reason... why not? Because we would compare the models' bodies to the wife's... I asked a simple question: if we watched models with the same body shape as the wife's, would porn still be seen as problem? No answer to that, unfortunately... the whole thread turned into a total mess, when the question was very simple, IMO.
 

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I pointed out that there are literally, legitimate reasons that a woman may need to go without sex for a month or more.
This is true. For example if one partner is extremely physically or mentally unwell. However, short of some serious illnesses, hospital stays, etc… that’s not too common.

There is also PIV sex and then other types of sex like oral, hand jobs, etc… Even if downstairs is closed the others CAN be open.

Justsayin’
 

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We had a lot of fun during the post partum period of the second kid. I wasn’t demanding it but she enjoyed giving me handjobs. It was so much fun because every time she would get a little bit closer and closer to the perineal area. I was enjoying it but made no demands because I liked the teasing and then one day…boom…finger on the prostate. It was naughty and we all had fun. That led to some back door action several months later because she decided she was open to it if I was.
 

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I'll come back to this thread now that the OP is gone.

Maybe its my fault as she seemed to turn hostile right after I posted my views on how I watch porn as my wife doesn't want sex very much. Just being honest that I do and that's the reason. I didn't say I lust after the actors and I never said I was going to cheat. And our situation has nothing to do with childbirth pregnancy. She just ran with some of those ideas.

On the contrary I said I watched average people who make their own movies and I had hoped maybe my wife would do some of those things some day like sex on a beach or by the pool. I doubt she will but thats what I posted.

Anyway, sorry if I was the one who set her over the edge. Not my intentions at all. She asked for men's perspective in what seemed to be a legit, inquisitive post, I responded and then it all went south from there. Hence why I left when she became aggressive.
 

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I'll come back to this thread now that the OP is gone.

Maybe its my fault as she seemed to turn hostile right after I posted my views on how I watch porn as my wife doesn't want sex very much. Just being honest that I do and that's the reason. I didn't say I lust after the actors and I never said I was going to cheat. And our situation has nothing to do with childbirth pregnancy. She just ran with some of those ideas.

On the contrary I said I watched average people who make their own movies and I had hoped maybe my wife would do some of those things some day like sex on a beach or by the pool. I doubt she will but thats what I posted.

Anyway, sorry if I was the one who set her over the edge. Not my intentions at all. She asked for men's perspective in what seemed to be a legit, inquisitive post, I responded and then it all went south from there. Hence why I left when she became aggressive.
I think my “reading comprehension section on the nursing school entrance exam” comment pushed her over the edge.

In regards to sex on the beach it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. It’s more constantly worrying you are going to get caught, sand getting in the wrong places, and generally not being very comfortable.
 

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I’m actually agreed with A LOT of what the OP said. What I couldn’t get past was her “the universe revolves around me” attitude. It was obvious she had this in her relationships and in her career. She seemed to be very fixated on post-partum sex even though that is a very infrequent cause of a sexless marriage. I don’t know of any reasonable man who would think it was OK to force himself on his wife during that time period, although there are many unreasonable men in the world. What is unreasonable is to think that her man should have no sexual release whatsoever during that time period and then to imply that he’s some sort of animal or perverted out of control sex fiend for wanting to ejaculate. This would be like me breaking my jaw and having my mouth wired shut and then forbidding my wife from eating anything but blended foods until I can. It’s actually extremely controlling.

I will say this though to address the original question. Yes, men are imagining they are in that situation having sex with that particular porn star. I’ve had this conversation with my brother many times and he’ll say things like “I only like BJ scenes because she won’t do it” or “I only watch scenes with women who look like my wife”. There may be a small element of truth to that but for the most part it’s BS. As men we need to recognize our nature and then do the right thing despite our primal urges and that means not looking at porn and not cheating. I had a talk last night with my wife and she brought up the subject of cheating and said she probably wouldn’t divorce me if she caught me cheating but it would be devastating. I assured her right there that I will never cheat on her. It’s not because I don’t find women other than her attractive it’s because I have character and I know that I won’t do that and I’ll not entertain flirting from other women and will put an end to it quickly. I’m also well aware of my animal nature but I’m more than just a penis and testosterone. I’m also a spiritual being and although I love sex with my wife my bond with her goes beyond just mingling body fluids.
 
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