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I agree, not the same thing. I can't say enough how stupid the rally was apparently. I'll say it a third time now. It was stupid. You're arguing with me about a point we both agree on there, june bug.

Which party was PUSHING for people to gather in the streets? In every major city. Visited the protests even. Asked to gather 1,000,000 people in DC.

You said that what Trump did was irresponsible as a leader. Again, I agree (4 times now?). He held a rally in Tulsa where a reported 6200 people went to attend. Dumb.

Are you willing to say that urging people to break social distancing and gather in every major city was responsible leadership in comparison?

Just comparing leadership here. Apples to apples.
It wasn't, but it was happening anyway, so they got on board. Thankfully no one showed up to the Trump rally, but it was not for lack of effort.
 

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Thankfully no one showed up to the Trump rally, but it was not for lack of effort.
6200 ''nobodies'' in attendance. More would have been added if they had more people screening the ticket holders. The show must go on, so they closed the doors and went ahead with the amount of people they had.

7.661million people watched the live stream (Biden probably one of them, lol)

Were the numbers as high as they usually are for a Trump rally, no? But high enough that the media forgot about the riots and went back to fear mongering the people about the virus. Weird timing, eh?
 

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Were the numbers as high as they usually are for a Trump rally, no? But high enough that the media forgot about the riots and went back to fear mongering the people about the virus. Weird timing, eh?
Yeah, it is odd, because they have to keep the vast conspiracy machine rolling. There are millions of people across the globe on the Soros payroll, and he is a demanding boss. If I don't get enough posts in, I get my pay docked. So, we have to keep on churning out the conspiracy.
 

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Yeah, it is odd, because they have to keep the vast conspiracy machine rolling. There are millions of people across the globe on the Soros payroll, and he is a demanding boss. If I don't get enough posts in, I get my pay docked. So, we have to keep on churning out the conspiracy.
If you're unable to notice the timing of conspicuous events, then, well, you know.............
 

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If you're unable to notice the timing of conspicuous events, then, well, you know.............
The news reports what is sensational, if it is not grabbing headlines they don’t want it. It is not because of a conspiracy or democrats, it is because of capitalism. What makes money is what they do. If you can’t see that, then, well, you know.......
 

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The news reports what is sensational, if it is not grabbing headlines they don’t want it. It is not because of a conspiracy or democrats, it is because of capitalism. What makes money is what they do. If you can’t see that, then, well, you know.......
And yet the media AND democrat narrative are perfectly aligned.
 

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I had a hypothesis on why social gatherings/bars/restaurants might have more spreading than protests or even the rally. In the protests people are generally not standing face to face or really talking to the people next to them, there is also not likely to be sharing of food or drink. They are also outdoors, and generally in more spacious areas. Also, despite the statements in this thread, there are many videos of protestors wearing masks. I am not saying they all are, but there are a good amount of them that are.

In a social setting, people tend to be close to each other, in a bar/restaurant people share food/drink, have a communal bowl of salsa or butter for bread, etc. Also, the more people in a social setting, the closer people get to talk to each other due to noise in the area. They are mostly indoors, and have a recirculated air system as well. Most of these things also involve drinking, which then lowers personal space boundaries, and people tend to to be more touchy/careless.

I am not saying these are the reasons, but I think those are plausible differences that could be the reason why spread happens in some places more than others.
 

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I had a hypothesis on why social gatherings/bars/restaurants might have more spreading than protests or even the rally. In the protests people are generally not standing face to face or really talking to the people next to them, there is also not likely to be sharing of food or drink. They are also outdoors, and generally in more spacious areas. Also, despite the statements in this thread, there are many videos of protestors wearing masks. I am not saying they all are, but there are a good amount of them that are.
Yes. A study out of Japan suggests spread is about 19 times more likely in an indoor setting than an outdoor one.

There is also a theory that there is huge variability in how contagious different patients are, or how contagious they are at different times. So while it's still true that having no infected people in your meeting will reliably predict the # of transmissions(zero), it probably makes a big difference whether any infected people are "super spreaders" or not.

Contact tracing is of great value not only in arresting the spread, but also in learning how it spreads.
 

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We should shut down the airlines immediately as a precaution.

Also, this is good news. Restaurants should be allowed to open back up and utilize outdoor seating. Church services allowed again with outdoor seating. This is wonderful news as well for 4th of July gatherings in the parks. Beaches should open immediately. All national parks should open immediately. We can really switch things up to allow for as many businesses as possible to proved their services in an outdoor setting.
 

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Oh no, the daily caller thinks that we are undermining freedoms! SHOCKING!


I am glad that deaths are down, I am glad that cases were coming down. I do worry that deaths will go back up as cases go up, but we have gotten better at treatments and early intervention, so it remains to be seen.
 

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Oh no, the daily caller thinks that we are undermining freedoms! SHOCKING!


I am glad that deaths are down, I am glad that cases were coming down. I do worry that deaths will go back up as cases go up, but we have gotten better at treatments and early intervention, so it remains to be seen.
It is not just Daily Caller - read the article!
 

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It is not just Daily Caller - read the article!
I did, and I read the letter, and I scanned the list of signatories.

It is really a bunch of nothing letter warning of people using the pandemic to control the population. As the anti-covid people like to say, looks a lot like fear porn to me.
 
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