[ConanHub]

I'm glad you are worrying less, and I am sure Mrs. C benefits from you worrying less as well.

Yeah, I definitely am a factor and on reflection, the ladies I was with before were women that I did not love and several of them had remarkable, and multiple, climaxes during intercourse while I was simply banging their brains away.

Mrs. C was the only woman I felt so intensely about and it might have set the course for our sex life by me behaving more carefully and tentatively with her than with others.

Lately, even the orgasms she achieves through other means are more intense and sustained for a longer duration.

 

[Griswold]

Wow, another "TAM is reading my mind " thread. How do you people do this?

I have zero complaints about sex life with the wife. I feel like I have to hug and kiss her spontaneously sometimes because she's been making me so happy about this part of the marriage.

But I've always wanted to have her O during the PIV. Never happened. She says it's never happened. After 34 years of dedicated effort - we got nothing. Not in the least a deal breaker. She always has an O with our other means. I've changed up the oral game and now we sometimes need towels And we use toys , fingers, whatever.

In the last 6 months, I read about the value of very short thrusts. Well duh. I'm such a stupid dude....just kept plowing
away. Want to kick myself. But I started. And I can tell....she likes that a lot. Lifeistooshort's comments are thought provoking so I guess the goal is to maximize contact/pressure there. I have found that when I get her on her tummy and come in from behind with the short strokes I get even more reaction (wife runs silent , runs deep - she is not a noise maker except at the very peak). So when she's getting extra pleasure, I'll hear sort of peeps and grunts. It's cute. So...as Conan says...work in progress.

It's just been so odd as my GF prior to wife was a total PIV orgasm'er. All I had to do was last long enough, and oddly, I guess due to wiring or whatever that's not a problem. I don't seem to have a refractory period. Mr P will stay erect just fine after an O so he can keep working if needed. This was issue early in marriage because I could just go and go and go and my wife's response would be ...what are you doing? You came already... I figured I had to. So we adjusted.

Conan - the "reach around" - love that term. We had a big round rubber exercise ball for years. Wow - put a blanket over that and it's perfect for the reach around. Issue I've always had with that position, or if Im PiV and we induce an O by other means (fingers or machines) - the woman is like a grape press! I mean the psi in there when she O's is lethal/painful. That was one of the big turn ons for me with A sex; no grape press. Plus the reach around is much easier with A sex than V sex. Due to age we've discontinued the A game, but I do miss it sometimes.

And communication - I have to chuckle. I want to stay anonymous so will leave out wife's profession, but let's say she's a STEM girl. Plus, the least conflict avoidant person I've ever met...so I've gotten detailed instructions and comments for years she's not judgy - just directional. So if there was way that she knew about to get to O with PIV, I'm pretty sure I would have heard about it. Which is why at one point I started to spiral about maybe my P was just not big enough. But that's for another thread someday...

 

[ConanHub]

Wow, another "TAM is reading my mind " thread. How do you people do this?

I have zero complaints about sex life with the wife. I feel like I have to hug and kiss her spontaneously sometimes because she's been making me so happy about this part of the marriage.

But I've always wanted to have her O during the PIV. Never happened. She says it's never happened. After 34 years of dedicated effort - we got nothing. Not in the least a deal breaker. She always has an O with our other means. I've changed up the oral game and now we sometimes need towels And we use toys , fingers, whatever.

In the last 6 months, I read about the value of very short thrusts. Well duh. I'm such a stupid dude....just kept plowing
away. Want to kick myself. But I started. And I can tell....she likes that a lot. Lifeistooshort's comments are thought provoking so I guess the goal is to maximize contact/pressure there. I have found that when I get her on her tummy and come in from behind with the short strokes I get even more reaction (wife runs silent , runs deep - she is not a noise maker except at the very peak). So when she's getting extra pleasure, I'll hear sort of peeps and grunts. It's cute. So...as Conan says...work in progress.

It's just been so odd as my GF prior to wife was a total PIV orgasm'er. All I had to do was last long enough, and oddly, I guess due to wiring or whatever that's not a problem. I don't seem to have a refractory period. Mr P will stay erect just fine after an O so he can keep working if needed. This was issue early in marriage because I could just go and go and go and my wife's response would be ...what are you doing? You came already... I figured I had to. So we adjusted.

Conan - the "reach around" - love that term. We had a big round rubber exercise ball for years. Wow - put a blanket over that and it's perfect for the reach around. Issue I've always had with that position, or if Im PiV and we induce an O by other means (fingers or machines) - the woman is like a grape press! I mean the psi in there when she O's is lethal/painful. That was one of the big turn ons for me with A sex; no grape press. Plus the reach around is much easier with A sex than V sex. Due to age we've discontinued the A game, but I do miss it sometimes.

And communication - I have to chuckle. I want to stay anonymous so will leave out wife's profession, but let's say she's a STEM girl. Plus, the least conflict avoidant person I've ever met...so I've gotten detailed instructions and comments for years she's not judgy - just directional. So if there was way that she knew about to get to O with PIV, I'm pretty sure I would have heard about it. Which is why at one point I started to spiral about maybe my P was just not big enough. But that's for another thread someday...

Thanks for sharing. I'm actually attempting to get her over the edge with intercourse alone but I might start getting some manual involved again and see if she's good with it.

I tried manual stimulation during intercourse once but she stopped me and said it was too much or distracting.

I don't think you should worry about size being the issue if she hasn't done it with anyone.

Studies have shown some women can more easily get the O with a bigger partner but they are also getting over the edge with smaller partners too.

There's actually a majority of women who have not been able to get there from intercourse alone.

I'm not concerned with the odds though because working for it has been a lot of fun and we have been getting closer.😁

 

[Griswold]

We recently got one of those fluttery/sucky toys that has a shape that allows it to insert between us during missionary. She HATEs normal vibrators. The fluttery ones work for her. So we've found that can work. It still ties up a hand and does now allow the kind of "we are one with the universe" embrace , but at least we're in the ball park.

No worries on my part about size. I don't have a complex. After researching to death, I was positively shocked to realize that I'm more than fine. I grew up in the age of gym classes and had other options to shower and bathe with scads of men. I've seen dozens and dozens of guys naked. Never thought anything amiss as a young guy. Only after decades of marriage and decades of never getting her to PIV O did I start to wonder and spiral. But cured that. I realize now that if God ever hears me complain about my body in that way, I could be struck down for sheer ingratitude. So I'm good. Grateful in fact. As you write, statistically most women simply don't reach O this way. We're OK.

But absolutely no reason to stop trying )

 

[Divinely Favored]

Watch some Charles Black and Caitlyn V on you tube. Think of the angles.

I tell my wife(in my best Wolfman Jack tone), "Baby, if you got the curves.....I got the angles!"

Think about maximum contact with G-spot and clitoris, what angle makes it happen.

1. Try standing beside the bed with her on her back, pillow under lower back and ass, even try getting a little lower, benn knees a little of needed. The upward angle allows the top of the hood to rake across her G-spot in and out.

2. Have her lay on bed legs closed, use lube, get on all 4s over her, straddling her thighs and enter from top, maximum contact with clitoris when stroking.

3. Her in cowgirl, her sliding back and forth. As she slides back it puts friction and pressure on G-spot and clitoris. After she stops back slide, with your hands firmly ahold of her ass cheeks, slide her abruptly and forcefully forward. This will cause your hard penis to "slap" the front inside (G spot) of her kitty and the ridge of you penis hood to firmly rake down the G-spot.

Best way I know to get her PIVO. Wife has continuous multiples doing the positions above. May help with your galls that have difficulty.

 

[Griswold]

DivinelyFavored - Thx! We've tried 2 and 3. But I'm game for #1. Bed height may be an issue...but I bought a pile of pillows for sex a while back so I'm loaded for bear in that department!