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How many years did it take for that trust to build?



Surrender makes it happen.

I’m found this thread interesting.
I’ve heard of women having difficulty O from PIV, but hardly experienced it.
I have done some thinking about this. I think with age a couple things have changed for her. 1 her hormones have definitely changed. In the past she has gone into phases of very high sex drive, these periods would last a few weeks to a couple of months and there would be months in between these swings. For the past 2-3 years she has been high drive consistently. Also since around the time she has become very orgasmic her clitoris has gotten slightly larger and I believe her G-spot has as well. She can orgasm with light pressure on the outside of her vagina, not clitoris stimulation needed just a little tickling which tells me her G-spot is also much more sensitive.

I think also since for so many years she had a hard time orgasming from PIV we never really tried to hard for that and would be doing a lot of oral and she would be orgasmed out from that by the time PIV even began.

Another thing that is different is I have been home most days as I have semi retired. We are sexually playful with each other all day and maybe the constant buildup has just got her that much more turned on in a heightened state of arousal by bed time.

There is an explanation in there somewhere. It's definitely not an issue of surrender or trust that has never been an issue. It's some mix of hormonal, physical, situational. Another factor may be we reached the point of real financial security a few years ago and her stress level with her career and everything else has gone to zero for the most part. Prior to a few years ago she always had a hard time shutting off her brain from work stuff and the kids are very self sufficient now as well so she has become a working lady of leisure as she says.
 

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her stress level with her career and everything else has gone to zero for the most part. Prior to a few years ago she always had a hard time shutting off her brain from work stuff
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My wife couldn't have PIV Os up until about two years ago, then all of a sudden the literal flood gates opened and she can now very easily. I chalk it up to a change in hormones as she is approaching peri-menopause (46). I know I am not doing anything special or vastly different. Doesn't matter the position or anything, 2-3 minutes of PIV and thar she blows and after the first its a climax every couple of minutes. She has been generally more horny also. The problem is after she has 5-6 she often needs a break for a few minutes. It's one of the worlds great mysteries.

One thing I will note is previous to this with specific G-spot stimulation she would feel like she needed to pee really bad, now she doesn't feel that urge to pee and orgasms instead.
This can be true, as when we've experienced PIVO she can typically go 3-4 times along here roller coaster but then the dreaded dried up recoup time comes along and can dampen the mood. Honestly though, if she's gotten off, I'm ok with that even if I haven't as there are multiple other ways for men to get off.
 

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There's a really sensitive spot on top close to our opening that's very sensitive. I've noticed that when we stop moving for a few seconds here and there it's even more so, so it may be this spot you're hitting when you don't go in as far.

I never even realized this until my current bf. This kind of O isn't a G Spot.... it's a vaginal one and they are different. I had my first one ever with him and the first time it happened my thought was what the hell was that?

Doesn't happen all the time but when it does it's amazing 😊
Well now you have me thinking because Mrs.Married has mentioned that in passing once or twice but since we got this toy that melts her brains during sex I never thought to revisit her comment. Thank you for bringing it up.
 

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We have been a work in progress.

We've always had a pretty great sex life but she has never been able to have a PIVO with anyone.

I would just like to have the experience with her and we seem to be getting pretty close.

She isn't a communicator so I've had to figure a lot out on my own with trial, error and research.
I dont normally share what I do, as everyone is different and I'd rather folks figure it out between themselves. But I like you... so I'll share what this Aussie barbarian does for free.

Based solely on feedback I never had issues with PIVO with any decent term partner (FWB+) and got used to their cum all over the bed to the point last one for example we had to use towels on her side of the bed or cuddle on my side etc. That's my standard but however I don't know if they are lying about the O, as women can soak the bed anyway.

Still, my exs tend to be more demanding and aggressive and need their Os so I'm going to assume I got them there. Again that's why communication is key, but if she's left everything for you to figure out...

- it's not just the act itself, it's how hot it is

Even if a position feels very good, if it's the same thing you've done all week it's not going to be very hot. Mix it up, push over over the dining table and take her, spread her legs over two chairs, or remain standing as she lays on the bed, pull her hips to yours and take her while she lays suspended, or have her on her front paws as you wheelbarrow her... but these are stuff that turned HER on, so your wife may differ. It's the mental stimulation that is important as well

- both deep and shallow thrusts, find different angles

@TXTrini mentioned shallow thrusts, I recommend varying it between fast and shallow, long and deep, it's just what I do, I don't know if it changes much but for me keeps her in suspense, surprise her with sudden pleasure when you switch from shallow to filling her all the way, also keeps me from being bored and gives me some respite from the constant hammering. Change your angles as well, once you find a spot though and she signals she's loving it, stick to the angle, change it next session.

- give her the reach around

This is my cheat sheet, if PIV itself is taking too long to get her to O, I take her from behind and reach over with my hand for a reach around, rubbing and vibrating with my fingers on her magic button as I continue to penetrate her, the other arm can also reach and squeeze fondle her breasts with fingers on her nipple etc, lips on her neck. They don't normally last long. But again, it's cheating when you use more then da penis I guess 😑 Still we have better things to do then F all day!

Start with these, hope it helps!
 

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LoL! Every woman is a bit unique. Mrs. C has seizure level orgasms and has only ever been able to have 3.
Body stiffening, grabbing the sheets and eyes rolling back as her head tilts bach while gasping. 😏 I know that reaction all to well.
Wife says between peaks there is a slight lowering of orgasm level, but it does not stop, only a brief lul in intensity. They come like waves with rising tide and almost as frequently.

Probably got a lot to do with her not having said no to me in ~10 yrs. Even if she has headache or passing kidney stone, she says she wants to ride the orgasm train, as she calls it, because it just keeps coming.

Her neck was hurting last night and I asked what I can do for her, she said "nothing baby" then I said "Well then what can I do to you?" She smiled and said "What ever you want"
 

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Rachel Bilson gave an interview that made me think of you and this situation Conan. Apparently she was similar to your wife. Until she got divorced.


Guess it happens to more women than most guys know. I really didn't know it was that common. I gotta give her props for speaking out. At least you have a conversation starter with Hayden Christensen if you ever run into him in your travels.
 

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Rachel Bilson gave an interview that made me think of you and this situation Conan. Apparently she was similar to your wife. Until she got divorced.


Guess it happens to more women than most guys know. I really didn't know it was that common. I gotta give her props for speaking out. At least you have a conversation starter with Hayden Christensen if you ever run into him in your travels.
That's interesting and the other woman didn't apparently until stopping birth control.

One person suggested it might have been an aftereffect of having a child.

Thanks for this bit of data.

I wasn't going to give updates or research anymore unless or until we crossed that particular finish line but we've been gaining a lot of ground and she has even felt comfortable enough to start giving some feedback and communicating which has helped.
 

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That's interesting and the other woman didn't apparently until stopping birth control.

One person suggested it might have been an aftereffect of having a child.
At 25, my wife came out of a sexual relationship before me, starting to think she couldn't orgasm through any partnered sex (since she hadn't ever done so), let alone stand alone penis in vagina sex.

Yet it turned out still aged 25, she found out she could orgasm quite easily, including via penis in vagina sex. All while being on or off hormonal birth control and also before and after having children.
 

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At 25, my wife came out of a sexual relationship before me, starting to think she couldn't orgasm through any partnered sex (since she hadn't ever done so), let alone stand alone penis in vagina sex.

Yet it turned out still aged 25, she found out she could orgasm quite easily, including via penis in vagina sex. All while being on or off hormonal birth control and also before and after having children.
Yup. In the aforementioned examples, child bearing and hormonal birth control may have been contributing factors but I'm fairly certain there were a lot of mental blocks in play.

With your wife, it certainly appears that it wasn't physiological at all. LoL!

Mrs. C has been an interesting, and really fun, puzzle.

She has never been able to have one with intercourse with anyone but she can with partners using manual, oral etc.

We have been able to get her to heights never before seen with others though and she has gotten so damn close to the edge from intercourse I'm wondering if she hasn't had a small one that felt different.

We are at a very good place at the moment though and I'm convinced it has just as much to do with her mental/emotional state as anything physically happening.

She's at a high level of confidence in her physique and I'm observing that it definitely affects her libido, responsiveness and performance.

Not to be too crude but I've been worrying a lot less about love making and just noting her responsiveness while I f her brains out. 😉
 
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