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My list of hell!

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We are both in our late 20s and have been together for over11 years. It has never been easy but as soon as we where married about 2 years ago it went quickly down hill. She refuses to come with me to talk to some one about our relationship and I don't seem to be able to get through to her in any way. Its like a stone

At the moment I can't really come up with a big long essay so I have listed the issues below

Lets start with my bad side


  • I had a mental breakdown some years back and I have become very withdrawn. I don't like crowds or people any more.
  • I bite my nails
  • My time keeping can be pretty crap at times
  • I have been know to pick my nose (I know its disgusting!)
  • I can shout and smash things when I am angry,
  • My job is stressful and my manager has bull****ted his way into the role and so has no real skills in the field we work in. Due to this I have lot of pressure on my back that he dumps across and some times I have to do long hours
  • I have lost my self confidence
  • I sometimes wont let an argument just drop
  • In the past I have taken her for granted (many years ago)
  • I used to play computer games a lot but that stopped about 3 years ago
  • I don't have any friends anymore (see first bullet)
  • I make stupid mistakes such as buying an item I had already asked her to get me for my Birthday (this annoys me)
  • I don't sleep very well but also I find it hard to get up in the morning
  • I do a lot of Internet browsing / reading for my job while at home.
  • I some times snore when under lots of stress or when very very tired

    This list can go on and on probably

Now onto my wife....

  • She is unhappy most days mainly with me and our relationship
  • She is always angry and easily provoked / frustrated, she can't do simple tasks such as help put a bed together without getting angry with it and walking off ( I walk around on egg shells!)
  • picky and overly critical of me (see above point)
  • 99 good things in the week are overshadowed by the 1 mistake I have made
  • makes her mind up and it can't be changed. She quotes me incorrectly, I try to tell her that’s not what I said, she doesn't argue about it but she will always come back to the quote and it goes in a huge circle again. It seems as if she is stuck in a loop.
  • She seems to see things as right or wrong with no ability to give leeway or explain away a mistake.
  • She can't see the difference between malicious intent and an accident / mistake and will punish both in the same way.
  • doesn't care if she hurts or upsets me, no change in her emotion even when I am is pieces. In fact no emotion other than anger and frustration.
  • She is very defensive, I can't criticise her in any way no matter how I sugar coat it
  • no effort (lost hope?)
  • says she feels awkward around me
  • no sex, no desire not even a kiss
  • Discussions turn into her being sarcastic and trying to say I am blaming her
  • She says “our relationship is ****” or “we don’t get on any more”
  • When we do have a good time she will later belittle it and say its not good enough or is crap that we only enjoy those activity’s
  • Says her friends have better marriages
  • says she wants to go on holiday like they do when I say “ok lets do it” then backs out saying she can't afford it. If I then ask why she blames our relationship for the fact that she can't afford it there is no answer other then walking off or getting angry
  • She has to have what ever it is she wants, she wanted a new car so we went to see it and I didn't like to look of it, it may have been in an accident and it had definitely had a hard life. When I brought up these possible problems she asked “should I not buy it then?” when I said If it was me I wouldn't she stormed off angry with me and was like that for days. When we did find a car for her a few days later she was happy again but then asked for $2000 from me to help her pay for it. (she doesn't like me talking about that though so its never brought up)
  • Seems to be unable to control her spending. I have dragged her out of her debt a few times but it just creeps up and up again.
  • Pushes other people away, she can't keep friends for more than 12 months (none of them turned up to our wedding) People have asked to be moved away from her in the office and managers have asked for her to not work under them any more
  • Doesn't seem to be able to step back and see the big picture, can't see it from any other point of view.
  • No real empathy for others
  • Tells me she doesn't want to hear about my problems any more, then a few weeks later says that I don't talk to her about my issues.
  • Tells me to make sure I tell her if she is making a mistake or upsetting me but hates it when I say anything (I don't any more)
  • She asked me to buy her a puppy (it was about $1000) she then found it hard to cope with it to the point where only me stepping in stopped her getting rid of it. Still 15 months on she struggles with the dog (its the most lovely little thing you have ever seen and very well behaved thanks to my mum and I training it for her!)
  • Doesn't act like a wife to me, more like my mother one minute and my child the next depending on if she is angry or wants something
  • Doesn't keep up with her side of the house work. I some times have no clean clothes and when I try to wash them she says I am only doing it to point out that she hasn't done them. I sadly some times have to go to work with dirty shirt and trousers on just to keep her happy (I dare not say anything to her about this) I also some times buy new cloths and hide them from her so I can wash them without her knowing
  • Very nasty drunk, I can't go out on a night out with her any more as she will just lay into me
  • Like I said at the very top of the list I had a mental breakdown some years back and I have become very withdrawn. She says I used to be outgoing, funny and sexy and now I’m not
  • When I ask her if she can see why I find the above comment hurtful she says she can't, when I ask if she can even see that it could be hurtful and ask for a yes or no answer she can't answer and walks off

    A bit more info...

  • I do some times get very angry with her and even though I try my best I do sometimes shout. I know I shouldn't and I really do try and keep a lid on it.
  • I do try and buy her little gifts a few times a month just to spark up her day
  • I call her every day to make sure she is ok in work and tell her I love her.
  • I look after the dog, take it to the vets, out for walks, feed it etc
  • I do my fair share of the house work (sometimes more than my fair share)
  • I financially support us even though she has a full time job (she hates me saying anything about this, this is a big no no)
  • I treat her nieces as if they where my own children.


I do all the little things like pick her and her friends up from nights out and take them home or go to the shops for her when she needs something, give her back rubs, foot rubs, look after her when she is ill and I would never ever cheat on her. To be honest there isn't anything I wouldn't do for her but I feel taken for granted and whatever I do isn't good enough anyway. I know this is only my side of the story and there’s a chance that maybe I am totally insane and this is a very warped view of what is really going on. I really do hope it is me going mad because I know that I can fix that! Oh and also when it is going good (it lasts for about 1 week normally) its fantastic and she is a really lovely person. I enjoy every last second with her nice side while it lasts and I have to keep reminding myself it not going to last long but be happy for the next few days. Nothing makes me more happy then her opening the door with a big smile on her face I just give her a big hug and smile myself, its like I have my life back. Its very much like living with Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

I will be honest I have posted this because I think am starting to struggle to cope, my ability to keep my mind straight has reduced, I some times can't remember my drive to work, its as if I have the entire drive missing from my memory, I can't remember what day it is, some one asked my age the other day and I couldn't remember that either (that was very odd!) and suicide has cropped up in my mind a few times when I am at my lowest. I am a fully grown man and I have a tear rolling down my cheek as I type this, In fact for some reason I cry a lot these days for no real reason, I feel embarrassed even typing that.

I think I am a good person, I hope I am anyway and I know I am not perfect and some of her anger and frustration is valid, I annoy myself when I a late for things but I really don't think I deserve all of the negativity.

Thanks for reading my list!
 
#75 ·
I think my wife is getting worse, she has painted a lot of friends black (there is no hope for the now) and has pissed of her boss and her team leader at work and now has a disciplinary meeting. I used to try and calm her down and keep her away from these work outbursts, warn her about being nasty to the people around her but I don't do it any more, I let her get on with it. Sadly I also have no sympathy for her and actually understand what her workplace must be going through.
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#76 ·
I think my wife is getting worse....
Like you, Maybe, I didn't find the validation techniques mentioned in Stop Walking on Eggshells to be helpful. Such techniques likely are helpful when the partner's BPD traits are at a moderate level but not when they are at a strong level, as appears to be the case with your W. I'm sorry to hear that her behavior is not improving.
 
#77 ·
Maybe, are you still around? If so, please give us a status update. Am wondering how you're getting along with your W and whether her boss has fired her by now.
 
#78 · (Edited)
Sorry for the lack of updates!

Some things have changed, she moved to a new office with a new boss and is moving again soon.

She is getting worse and for the most part I cope but do have my off days. I think she takes me more and more for granted these days than ever before and is slowly becoming more and more unreasonable and paranoid. The sulking when she doesn't get her own way is a weekly occurrence now and she hardly spends any time with me (mainly due to the sulking)

She now 100% refuses to resolve any conflict, she will sulk and sulk but not talk or bring anything of any value to try and fix even the smallest disagreement but it doesn't surprise me.

When we do spend time together she reads her books and if I try and make idle chit chat or talk to her she says I'm chatting **** and she is trying to concentrate. If I call her in the day and she bothers to actually answer I get one word answers and awkward silences.

If she wants sex and doesn't get it she withholds it for weeks If I want sex she withholds it and the last time we had sex she didn't orgasim and had a massive strop, I did offer to give her her orgasim in other ways but she refused and now uses it from time to time to belittle me.

All good apart from that
 
#79 ·
Maybe, thanks so much for returning to update your original thread, which you started back in October 2011. By sharing your experiences here, you've helped numerous other members and lurkers. Indeed, your story in this thread has already attracted about 45,000 views. There seem to be two reasons for this popularity. One is that, in your very first post above, you come out of the gate with a detailed, concise, and articulate account of problems occurring in your marriage.

The other reason, in my view, is that you describe a problem affecting a substantial share of other marriages and LTRs. The lifetime incidence of BPD was found to be 6% in a recent study of nearly 35,000 American adults (funded by the National Institutes of Health and published in 2008). If BPDers only formed LTRs with other BPDers, this finding would imply 6% of all LTRs include a BPDer.

Yet, because BPDers are emotionally unstable, they strongly desire to be paired with a partner having a stable personality -- so that partner can help to center and ground the BPDer and provide a sense of direction. That is, BPDers nearly always enter long-term relationships with nonBPDers. Hence, although BPDers account for only 6% of the population, they likely account for (i.e., are a member of) nearly 12% of the long-term relationships. Moreover, the figure likely is larger than that because BPDers typically have more failed marriages and other failed LTRs, leaving a long trail of abused ex-partners.
 
#85 · (Edited)
Old familiar story to me, I remember reading this thread back in 2011. I've been married to a BPDer for 10 years now (second marriage). About 2 years ago she discovered Trazadone (well actually I suggested she try it, because it was either get her help or get divorced, my life was a living hell). In her case it changed her enormously. She is much less angry and crazy acting with the childish manipulative "I can't ever be wrong or my life falls apart" behaviors. I am convinced that Borderline / depression / bipolar are all mixed to some extent in many people so finding the right treatment can be hard. And in some cases there may be no easy chemical solution.

I knew that deep down this was NOT the person I fell in love with. I stuck with her although it has taken a great toll on my mental / physical health. Unfortunately all the problems have not gone away with the advent of the Trazadone. She is also ADHD on top of the Bordeline/depression issues, so she wants to use Adderall on occasion for tasks likes driving, traveling, etc. She is really, truly ADHD by the way has significant problems with concentration and comprehension. Unfortunately I have learned without a shadow of a doubt that Adderall also makes my wife into a raving angry lunatic. Starts arguments over the slightest thing, pushes buttons, blaming, twists things around to damage my self esteem which I guess gives her some sort of charge when she is in this state.

When she is not doing the Adderall and she is on the Trazadone she is the amazing person I married. But to confront her about any of this is not possible; she would never, ever accept that either the Trazadone changed her for the better, or that the Adderall makes her into a crazed angry spiteful spawn of satan. That Borderline trait is still there which prevents her from admitting these things, but I don't CARE if she can't admit this or not. I just need her to keep taking Trazadone (and stay far, far away on the days when she is using the Adderall).
 
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