I lost right now. My story. It about a year ago I was suffering from depression. I withdrew from my family and wife. She felt she was raising our kids by herself and she was right. I was depressed and didn't know how to communicate that with her. This made her give-up on me (so she said). DDay was in July. She had been acting funny for about a month, so I started getting a feeling that something was up. She didn't come home until 1:30 one night. When she came home I had notice she got a text. The next morning she would not look at me, so I knew something was wrong. She left to run errands so I went back and looked at the phone records and I notice there was thousand of text from this number. I called that number and found out it was guy she has worked with in the past. I asked her if she had affair and she said yes. I asked to have NC with the OM. I was destroyed and she said it was because I was not there the previous year. I asked why did you say you were unhappy. Well I found out that she contacted him in September and week ago. I asked why and she said it was a weak moment. She said she wants our marriage to work but she said she loves me but not in love and she still has feelings for the OM but it's not love. WHAT DO I DO NOW!
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They've probably been in contact all along. Tell her you're going to see a lawyer about your rights and you plan to DNA all your kids, since you can't be sure she hasn't been adulterating your offspring all along. These statements send a message. Meet with the attorney ASAP. You can decide whether or not to file at your leisure.
Did you get treated for depression or did you get out of it on your own?
Who makes more, you or your wife?
How old are you two, your kids, how long together?
Have you already had enough, or do you want to bring her back into the marriage?
Did you get treated for depression or did you get out of it on your own?
Who makes more, you or your wife?
How old are you two, your kids, how long together?
Have you already had enough, or do you want to bring her back into the marriage?
I have a 6 and a 2 year old. We both make about the same amount of money. She hadn't work with the man until about 3 years ago.
She said she is wanting this marriage to work and if she didn't want to work then she would have already left.
When I found out there was not much remorse from her. Then about a month after my anger dwindle a little she started to become very loving to me and supportive. Then a month ago she withdrew from me and again.
With in a two weeks of finding out, I had realized if I didn't fix my depression I was going to lose my wife and kids. I change and she said the past 5 months I have been the father and husband she has always wanted. However she says she is still mad at me for not support her in the period I was having my depression.
She said she is wanting this marriage to work and if she didn't want to work then she would have already left.
When I found out there was not much remorse from her. Then about a month after my anger dwindle a little she started to become very loving to me and supportive. Then a month ago she withdrew from me and again.
With in a two weeks of finding out, I had realized if I didn't fix my depression I was going to lose my wife and kids. I change and she said the past 5 months I have been the father and husband she has always wanted. However she says she is still mad at me for not support her in the period I was having my depression.
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To simply put she doesn't love you.
Now, would you stay with someone that cheated on you, doesn't respect you and doesn't love you? That's what you should do.
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Depends on what you're hoping to accomplish with the 180.
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You need to educate yourself ASAP.
Start with reading these book and blogs.
Married Man Sex Life | How to have the marriage you thought you were going to have. By which I mean doing it like rabbits.
No More Mr. Nice Guy
Alpha Game
Chateau Heartiste
Machiavelli any more useful links for this chap?
Sorry to shine light: I own you the truth.
The affair is underground. You are in false R. You can't count with her word. She become a good liar. Start snooping seriously: keylogger the computer, spyware the phone, VAR at the car, GPS. Are you checking the phone bill? Are you following where goes the cash?
Taylor the 180 to your adventage. Put emphasis in self improvement. Forget the rest for a while so she doesn't suspect you are snooping.
Find your rights, talk to a lawyer. It doesn't mean you have to file now.
Welcome TAM CWI newbies- please read this
The Healing Heart: The 180
Keep reading, keep posting. You are not alone.
Did she sent the NC letter? Did she give you complete transparence (passwords, etc) so you can verify this? Is she acountable for the whereabouts. Is she financialy transparent? Did she answered your questions to your satisfaction?
The fact she still here doesn't mean a thing. There are tons of possible reason to stay, at least for now (or not leaving for this particular OM, at least for now). You actually doesn't know more than she cheated, keeps cheating and blames you. What it's blatantly obvious is she wants to eat her cake. Her answer is a manipulative attempt at "logical" fallacy. Very obvious actually.
Much remorse is an euphemism. She's not remorseful at all. If she was she wouldn't having an affair, don't you think? It's contradictory. And she IS having the affiar. The fact you only can catch her once in while doesn't mean the affair is not ongoing. The moods swing has nothing to do with you (whatever you are "improving" or not), they are the up and downs of her affair.
The bolded part are crumbs she dishes so she can keep cake eating. The "still mad" is to cover herself when you catch her blataly contacting OM or when she can't hide the "mood swings" I explained before.
The affair is underground. You are in false R. You can't count with her word. She become a good liar. Start snooping seriously: keylogger the computer, spyware the phone, VAR at the car, GPS. Are you checking the phone bill? Are you following where goes the cash?
Taylor the 180 to your adventage. Put emphasis in self improvement. Forget the rest for a while so she doesn't suspect you are snooping.
Find your rights, talk to a lawyer. It doesn't mean you have to file now.
Welcome TAM CWI newbies- please read this
The Healing Heart: The 180
Keep reading, keep posting. You are not alone.
There hasn't been a NC contact letter yet. She has been transparent, I have all passwords. This is how how found about the Facebook message a week ago. My test was if he responded I wanted to see it. He did responded a day later and she showed it to me. OM has the money and paid for everything in the past, so no money has been missing. She has answer my questions.
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You've hit all the big guns, Keko. StillSad, start reading.
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No. Don't contact the OM. Unless, you kill him or cripple him, you come off as looking weak. It's a felony for you to kill or maim the OM, so don't contact him. Does he have a wife or GF?
Actions have consequences.
What was the consequence of her contacting other man again?
You: "Don't contact other man again."
You: "I saw that you contacted other man again."
Her: "Oh, yeah, I wasn't going to tell you about that and I was hoping you wouldn't see it. I still have very deep sexual desire for him and I miss him terribly."
You: "OK. Don't do that again. No more contact.
Her: "OK."
That has repeated twice already. The more it happens without consequence, the more she will do it.
What was the consequence of her contacting other man again?
You: "Don't contact other man again."
You: "I saw that you contacted other man again."
Her: "Oh, yeah, I wasn't going to tell you about that and I was hoping you wouldn't see it. I still have very deep sexual desire for him and I miss him terribly."
You: "OK. Don't do that again. No more contact.
Her: "OK."
That has repeated twice already. The more it happens without consequence, the more she will do it.
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The affair is still going on underground. Only she is being much more careful about it.
Is the OM married ?
You handled the affair very badly..
You should not have offered reconciliation immediately
You should have made her more accountable.
You should have started fixing your issues.
Make her move out of the house. Get someone else to help with the kids for sometime
Is the OM married ?
You handled the affair very badly..
You should not have offered reconciliation immediately
You should have made her more accountable.
You should have started fixing your issues.
Make her move out of the house. Get someone else to help with the kids for sometime
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She still feels entitled to have an affair instead of breaking up or fixing th4 issues of the marriage. Would she expect that you do the same to her when she is going through a difficult period in her life ?
Make it clear to her that srtaying in the marriage or not is your call. She lost the right a long time back
Did you guys go to counseling ? Do the families know ?
You're not going to nice her out of this affair. Have you considered any of the following?
Pack up her stuff, put it in the car, and drive her over and drop her off at the other man's house. First call him to say, "you win, she's all yours, I'm driving her over now to drop her off with all of her baggage."
Let your family and hers know she had an adulterous affair and was still contacting her affair partner, and that you just told other man he could have her and you dropped her and all her stuff off at other man's. Let your friends know, too. Don't tell her friends anything - screw her friends, she could tell them anything she wants, you shouldn't care one bit.
You definitely should let other man's wife know about the affair and ask for her help in killing it.
Why do you even want to stay married to "I love you but I'm not in love with you" and "I still have strong feelings for the other man"? That's gotta hurt, looking at her every day and knowing that's how she feels about you. Wouldn't you rather be alone than with someone who tells you that?
Maybe if you take some tougher actions and force her out of her comfortable, stable, secure life with you, knowing you always will be there for her no matter what she says or does, she would realize what she is losing and develop those feelings for you in a hurry. If not, what are you losing?
Pack up her stuff, put it in the car, and drive her over and drop her off at the other man's house. First call him to say, "you win, she's all yours, I'm driving her over now to drop her off with all of her baggage."
Let your family and hers know she had an adulterous affair and was still contacting her affair partner, and that you just told other man he could have her and you dropped her and all her stuff off at other man's. Let your friends know, too. Don't tell her friends anything - screw her friends, she could tell them anything she wants, you shouldn't care one bit.
You definitely should let other man's wife know about the affair and ask for her help in killing it.
Why do you even want to stay married to "I love you but I'm not in love with you" and "I still have strong feelings for the other man"? That's gotta hurt, looking at her every day and knowing that's how she feels about you. Wouldn't you rather be alone than with someone who tells you that?
Maybe if you take some tougher actions and force her out of her comfortable, stable, secure life with you, knowing you always will be there for her no matter what she says or does, she would realize what she is losing and develop those feelings for you in a hurry. If not, what are you losing?
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