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Bingo. Probably the number one reason people use VPN's is to prevent their ISP from identifying them to the original producer of pirated media. That way they can safely download movies, premium TV shows (Westworld, Game of Thrones) music, software or porn from a torrent site. Otherwise these companies, especially HBO, Showtime, and the movie/music producers will eventually ID you - with the assistance of your ISP.

Or so I've been told.

well yes, he do download movies and songs and shows. maybe he wants to cover all that fishy activity he is doing which includes porn as well.
 

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Can you tell us why you don't leave?
because we can't afford it. and I don't want to pull the kids though this. They can't handle this right now. this would be my second divorce and third failed relationship...I want to wait until the kids are much older.
 

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because we can't afford it. and I don't want to pull the kids though this. They can't handle this right now. this would be my second divorce and third failed relationship...I want to wait until the kids are much older.
You know what, I understand, I really do. But think about this, at some point you deserve to be happy.

Do your best to save money and get yourself in a position to leave. I have been I that position before, and good grief it made me miserable.

I would not wish it on my worst enemy.

Please try to get out ASAP...
 

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OR if browsing inappropriate content on a monitored network.

In other words, your husband might be browsing porn — or other inappropriate content — at work.
My employer blocks nearly every website on the company network. Now this wifi is provided for flight crew in various crew lounges at airports around the system so that when we get 3 hours of "airport appreciation" time between flights we can get on a secure network for things like banking and personal email. They block my favorite guitar forum and a motorcycle forum. And TAM.

Anyhow, a VPN gets around those censors.

The VPN is also good for security on unsecured networks like hotel wifi, though I'd never do anything at all sensitive on a hotel system even with a VPN.

And as you say it also facilitates things like porn if that is what someone wants to do. Like any tool, there are good and bad uses.
 

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well yes, he do download movies and songs and shows. maybe he wants to cover all that fishy activity he is doing which includes porn as well.
If that's the case, it's more likely he's using a VPN to avoid being prosecuted for illegal downloading, than for cheating on you. Millions of people do the same thing.
Odds are really good it is this^. There are law offices that do nothing but search for ISPs downloading copyrighted material and try to make the downloader pay a use fee with a threat of prosecution. A VPN keeps the downloader from being traced.
 

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VPN will only mask your internet outgoing IP as well as encrypt any traffic. It won't delete browser histories, cookies etc

I cannot see any use for using a VPN other then torrents, videos for specific countries, secure and sensitive information in unsecure networks. Also to connect to work from home

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I often thought about using a VPN because of all the companies that track my every move on the internet. Right now 14 different companies are tracking my every move on the Internet. I have had as high as 36 different companies tracking me just looking on eBay or Amazon. Google, Twitter, and Facebook always track me and I don't have an account with any of them.

Selling a person's internet habits is why some things on the Internet are free. Almost everything you do on the Internet and on your cell phone is recorded and tracked by someone and most likely by several organizations. It is an invasion of privacy.
 

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Does he use torrent sites for downloading music/movies? Switch to newsgroups :)
 

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If that's the case, it's more likely he's using a VPN to avoid being prosecuted for illegal downloading, than for cheating on you. Millions of people do the same thing.
Yeah.

I'm sure that's what he's doing - downloading bootleg movies, games and show tunes, and THAT'S why he secretly paid for these VPNs and didn't tell his wife. :rolleyes:
 

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According to Eric: In the UK, all the major ISPs are required by law to block access to the torrent websites. Buying a VPN subscription to access the torrent sites is much cheaper than a Netflix account and gives you access to a much wider variety of media with complete disregard to political boundaries.
VPN also allows Eric to appear to be in another country. This is useful in buying software since it considerably cheaper to buy many products in the US since typically a price in US$ has the same numeric value as it is in UK£ despite the exchange rate values the UK£ higher. In cases, products are simply not available outside of the US.
 

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I've heard of both. You get to know about these things when you need to hire PI's occasionally to track suspected cheating spouses as part of a divorce case. Anyway, those types of apps are used by cheaters, drug dealers, and kiddie porn fans. Which one is your hubby?
 

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I've heard of both. You get to know about these things when you need to hire PI's occasionally to track suspected cheating spouses as part of a divorce case. Anyway, those types of apps are used by cheaters, drug dealers, and kiddie porn fans. Which one is your hubby?
thats like saying that computers are the kinds of devices used by cheaters, drug dealers, and kiddie porn fans. which one are you?
 

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thats like saying that computers are the kinds of devices used by cheaters, drug dealers, and kiddie porn fans. which one are you?
No, not really. Those particular apps are not used by anyone I know. They're not used by government agencies because they use even better apps. Those are used by cheaters, drug dealers, and kiddie porn collectors. People that aren't very tech savvy but want to hide their phone's online activities. Computers have many purposes, most of which are very positive purposes. The apps listed here have only one purpose and what law enforcement has found is they are used by cheaters, drug dealers, and pedophiles.
 

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No, not really. Those particular apps are not used by anyone I know. They're not used by government agencies because they use even better apps. Those are used by cheaters, drug dealers, and kiddie porn collectors. People that aren't very tech savvy but want to hide their phone's online activities. Computers have many purposes, most of which are very positive purposes. The apps listed here have only one purpose and what law enforcement has found is they are used by cheaters, drug dealers, and pedophiles.
Im sure law enforcement has also found that guns are used for armed robbery, but most people who have them never commit armed robbery.

I use them all the time, and i know a LOT of people who use them, and none of them are drug dealers or pedophiles. Some of them are cheaters, but the few that were did not use a VPN to cheat.

The vast majority of people use them for fairly benign purposes, like maintaining privacy or bypassing censorship. To go straight to the conclusion that anyone using them must be using them to cheat, deal drugs, or trade child porn is pretty narrow minded.
 
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I've heard of both. You get to know about these things when you need to hire PI's occasionally to track suspected cheating spouses as part of a divorce case. Anyway, those types of apps are used by cheaters, drug dealers, and kiddie porn fans. Which one is your hubby?
They are also sometimes used by normal people trying to get away from bizarre stalkers with a vigilante complex who don't care that their behaviors might be frowned upon by their state association.

In other words, some of us have used them to try to hide from crazy idiots.
 

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They are also sometimes used by normal people trying to get away from bizarre stalkers with a vigilante complex who don't care that their behaviors might be frowned upon by their state association.

In other words, some of us have used them to try to hide from crazy idiots.
There are exceptions to every norm, that's true. With regard to these types of apps the norm is cheaters, drug dealers, and pedophiles. It's like the dark web. We all know there could be legit things there, and there are, but the norm is illegal drugs and child porn. Those are the overwhelming uses of the dark web.
 

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Im sure law enforcement has also found that guns are used for armed robbery, but most people who have them never commit armed robbery.

I use them all the time, and i know a LOT of people who use them, and none of them are drug dealers or pedophiles. Some of them are cheaters, but the few that were did not use a VPN to cheat.

The vast majority of people use them for fairly benign purposes, like maintaining privacy or bypassing censorship. To go straight to the conclusion that anyone using them must be using them to cheat, deal drugs, or trade child porn is pretty narrow minded.
Yes there are exceptions to every norm but the norm for these types of apps are cheaters, drug dealers, and pedophiles.
 

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There are exceptions to every norm, that's true. With regard to these types of apps the norm is cheaters, drug dealers, and pedophiles. It's like the dark web. We all know there could be legit things there, and there are, but the norm is illegal drugs and child porn. Those are the overwhelming uses of the dark web.
Exactly. Ironically, my stalker was a champion of the dark web for certain uses. Creepy guy....

Yep, for the most part, there isn't a rel mainstream type need for these things.
 

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Yes there are exceptions to every norm but the norm for these types of apps are cheaters, drug dealers, and pedophiles.
except that for VPN's, cheaters, drug dealers, and pedophiles is NOT the norm. they are the exception.

even among the dark web, which i also go on all the time, most users are just curious people who want to remain anonymous. the drug dealers and pedophiles use bitcoin wallets, often multiple bitcoin wallets, to transfer funds anonymously. there are less than 30 million bitcoin wallets with enough bitcoin to maintain a wallet in them, and they are most popular in countries with the most capital controls. block chaining and cryptocurrencies are more broadly understood today than they were several years ago, and it is much easier to trace those transactions than anyone originally thought, but that doesnt stop the non drug related transactions. its current value is a testament its popularity for avoiding processing fees and capital controls, so the greater risk of getting caught dealing drugs did next to nothing to stop its popularity.

and then there is the TOR browser. with about a 100,000 downloads every day, there simply aren't enough bitcoin wallets to claim that a majority of people who use TOR are dealing drugs or doing something illegal, considering that most of the dark web markets trade in bitcoin. more people download TOR every year than all of the bitcoin wallets that have ever existed. most people just download the browser to use it like a VPN, or because they are curious about onion sites.

so yea, drug dealing and child porn is NOT the norm. VPN's and TOR may be the primary tools used by drug dealers and pedophiles, but most people who use them are not drug dealers or pedophiles. and as for cheating, neither VPN's nor onion browsers really help much with that.

the most likely answer is that someone downloading them is simply trying to bypass blocks and censorship, and to maintain anonymity.
 
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