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So...been through Sex In Marriage, Coping With Infidelity, and now here I am. Divorce. One could say TAM has failed me and my marriage...but I know that couldnt be further from the truth...my W did that. My thread has been a roller coaster ride for almost a month now. And my life has been that for nearing three months. With the help of this forum, professionals and friends, I find myself serving my STBX papers coldly and calmly, as if it were easy.

But it isn't. As much as she has acted as a cold and heartless succubus with no conscience in these last few months, I know deep down that isn't true, as I loved her and took care of her for 8+ years, and received the same and more from her the entire time...before the change came. My friends and family have told me (pretty much ALL of them, separately) that they never would have expected her to do what she did to me these last few months (cheated, lied, denied, blameshifted, lied, cheated again, lied more, projected, lied, and guilted ME for it). They all told me how fiercely loyal she was...and I agreed, and pointed out how much I always loved that about her. She would punch Pacino in the d**k if he said anything bad about me (proverbially, of course...but seriously, she would have done it if necessary.)

A couple years of regular work travel, and one day it's all over. And now she is too, as are we. She became infatuated with some dou**e selling her a story of why I am not deserving of such a sexy, fantastic, fun-loving girl, actually fell in love with him over a few months of chronic texting, ph calls and video chat sex (and then PA) on the road, and handed over our marriage to him. I felt it, gathered evidence and tried to stop it, but she chose to continue and let it happen against my strongest wishes...testing my strength.

My strength, which I didn't remember I had, my friends and this forum have brought me here. I am gone, moved out, shocked that my months of overtures, pleas, then calm demands and demonstration of massive self-improvement for the sake of our marriage have gone essentially unnoticed and disrespected. She has no money (at the moment at least), no dogs (we've raised and loved two from pups over the last 7+ years) and now she has to maintain a house she can't easily afford by herself now that I've moved out.

Now I'm sending process servers to make the clock start ticking...because she is showing me she doesn't CARE that she f***ed some guy while married to me, her husband, lover, friend. She wants me to think it's my fault SHE did these things. The things I had to do to discover proof of this are "sick" to her.

And tonight I find myself knowing I'm doing the right thing...but also having a hard time blocking out all the good memories...there are so many. What do I do with them? Sell them on craigslist? Feel so strong about 95% of the time...then I accidentally run across a picture or two as I'm setting up my computer gear in my new apt, and I'm crying w my dogs for an hour. Grown man, in charge of the sitch, many steps ahead of her at this point in the D. But wish I could take that 5% and shove it up her *** for what she's done to my great memories. I want them all back so I can throw them away. But I can't. The good times were great, but she is gone now, and now so am I...all I hear from her now is how I'm a (insert your negative descriptor) for effing with people's lives, never anything about her months of planned adultery being wrong in any way.

Tomorrow is attempt number two for her to be served. Hope she answers the door this time. Let's get this ball rolling so I can feel good again. Different every day, forgive my apparent weakness for love lost...

My attorney tells me to put being "nice" right out of my head...does it get easier to do that, or am I in for months of method acting to end this (newly defined) sham of a marriage?

No pun intended. FML.
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Quick check-in, doing just fine. I've been pretty busy the last few days with work as well as play.

W has had the most recent draft of the D papers since Monday now...yesterday she tells me she hasn't been able to get to reading it yet. Ummm, it's 10 whole pages...double-spaced. So yeah, that could take a while, right? Anyway, she said she'd read them today or tomorrow and get back to me. She leaves on Sunday for an 11-day work trip, so I hope for an answer before then. If not, I suppose she can always FedEx a signed copy to me from her location. She was in such a hurry a month ago...

Now I am ready for this to be done. Everything in there was verbally agreed upon between us. Just read them and sign them please!

Been spending a lot of time with my new little companion. She's awesome, and very patient...so far. I read her book (that's recently been picked up for publishing if she agrees to the crap deal)...it's great. Biased viewpoint coming from me, sure. But great nonetheless. Whew. What if it had sucked? :) So I suppose I should refer to her as the writer, as opposed to the waitress?

Been talking it up with anyone and everyone around me, when I'm in the mood (which is a lot these days). Got some new clothes. Waist is 4 inches smaller than four months ago. Makes shopping a bit more fun. I've had a few numbers thrown at me without asking. Ummm, I like Mk II.

Just busted my n*tz at the gym this morning and tonight I'm roadtripping to visit an old friend a couple hours away...he's recently divorced, should be interesting.

Not that life is perfect or anything, I find myself down once in a while, and I'm not sure how I'll feel when it's time to sign the D papers, but overall things are looking up and I'm a lot more comfortable with where things are at. Very comfortable.

W told a friend recently about her dilemma with men...that she needs an alpha, and in her job SHE'S the alpha on the worksite, and that messes with her relationship dynamics outside of work. She said most women in her profession that she knows are either single...or married to "Sham types". Ha. Well, I was definitely beta-ized for a while there toward the end of our marriage, so I can't fault her for saying that. But she has created a monster and doesn't even know it. Mk II. If she were just meeting me today for the first time, I'd lay a thousand that she would see anything but beta. Or if I'm wrong about that, it doesn't matter I guess, because I see it that way.

OH - found a nice outlet the other day. Let's just say a range, some targets, and a 44 magnum. Holy crap that'll loosen a guy up. Been since my grandpa's farm as a kid since I did that.
 
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A man after my own heart (figuratively speaking) ... .44 mag. My favorite.

I've been following your...well transformation for some time Sham, WOW (yeah like you haven't heard that one before huh).

Be proud, you've come a long way.
 
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I just somehow knew that your stbxw would drag her feet with the papers. But other than that, way to go Sham!:D

I have to admit, I was getting concerned.
 
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Yep, I'd say she's officially dragging. She didn't review and get back to me by Saturday. Also, she sent a text Sat night saying she swears she'll get to them on Sun. She didn't. Again, 10 pages...not a strenuous read.

Her last bastion of control?

Mayhem, I'll check with my lawyer about how to proceed if she continues to stall. It's only been a week since the revised draft was delivered, and can't imagine she'll do this much longer, but let's just say I have plans that would be hampered if this isn't finalized in three or four weeks.

Morituri, went out with her best friend (gf) and her husband last night (they invited me out to a gallery opening of a mutual friend). Husband asked me if I've been dating. I happened to say yes. Didn't give out minute details or say anything disrespectful of W, but basically said I was really enjoying life and was now just waiting for W to sign the papers already. Not really flaunting anything, but it will get back to stbxw in short order.

Tick tick.
 
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Good job Sham! I'll bet that even though your stbxw can mentally accept the inevitability that you will be dating or being intimately involved with other women, emotionally it will hit her like a sucker punch. You see, unfaithful wives don't view us betrayed husbands as sexually attractive UNTIL there is another woman in the picture. So I wouldn't be surprised that your stbxw will try to entice you sexually just so that the other woman won't get to have you. Let's see what happens, it should be interesting.
 
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#1,035 ·
Look up dirty divorce tricks-I think one of them is to drag ones feet with the proceedings, even though it would be to her long term benefit to sign ASAP.
 
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Okay, been ten days now that W has ignored the D papers I sent her (ought to be the final draft, as everything in there was previously agreed upon between us verbally). She keeps "updating" me via text or email that she's really busy, and sorry she'll get to them tomorrow, blahtedy blah. Never does. I stopped responding to these a week ago.

I know ten days is not a long time in the grand scheme, and I don't want to be unreasonable or pushy, but have to admit this is starting to get a little annoying.

Waiting to hear back from my lawyer today about my options to move it ahead without her cooperation, if she continues to drag. She's out of town for work through next Thursday (so she's "busy", yeah...but also know she's found plenty of time to party since she left on Sunday - people talk). Pending what my lawyer says, I'm planning to tell her that if she doesn't review them and sign by Thursday when she gets back, I'll be filing on Friday without her.

Why drag? All I can think of is that I have paid my half of the main utilities (gas/elec) at the house since I left and she has recently joked about not signing so that can continue. I didn't laugh. I also hoped she was truly kidding. It's not much money, but it's not a fair arrangement, especially if she's going to play games with my money.

I'm done with that now. It was an arrangement that placated the situation in September, and my lawyer has told me I don't have to pay a dime if I don't want to. Now that it's moving into winter weather the gas bill is gonna go through the roof. I want no part of it, nor should I.

Other reason I'm done? There's a guy housesitting at the house right now taking care of upkeep while she's out of town for work. Old family friend of hers, nice guy...and gay, so no funny business there. But either way, my take is HE can pay the damn bills.

Slightly irked, and losing patience.
 
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Sham - I don't know why you would give her next Thurs as her deadline when she's already had 10 of them.

Sham 2.0 needs to report for duty and plow ahead with the D filing without her.

This will rattle her cage more than anything. She's gaming the Sham 1.0 version. Don't put up with it!
 
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Sham, she is dragging because there isn't anything in it for her. It's not like she is staying faithful on you, meanwhile you have started dating and she knows it. This dragging it out is a nice easy cost less game for her.

You've been nice, too nice, finish it so you can finally move on.
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She may be dragging her feet so that all of the work, and all of the EXPENSE of the D will fall on YOU. It's a trick to bleed you dry so that you will have no fight left in you, and then she can swoop in for the kill.
 
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Despite all her bravado and pride, maybe she's dragging her feet because she may not be emotionally ready to put the final nail on the coffin of her SECOND MARRIAGE. Think about it, this may be your first marriage but it is her second marriage, and the deep down she knows that the failure of her second marriage rests squarely upon her shoulders.
 
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I'm not exactly convinced through all the bravado and pride that she really wants to let Sham go, either.

My wife asked how this saga was going last night - I gave her Sham's update and she agrees that as a woman in this position - she's holding on to Sham as long as she can.
 
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Sham and his wife have avoided sitting down and actually talking to each other about what has happened. There has been some small talk etc. Even a lonely little "I'm sorry". I think after some time passes both of them are going to regret this.
 
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Sham's W's actions maybe legion, but I'd offer a simple explanation:

1 - She's ashamed of her actions - really ashamed - but only because of the consequences Sham has placed.
2 - She was taught, while growing up, that "mistakes" are swept under the rug and forgiven with no consequences.
3 - She really wants a rug sweep and keep Sham

No one taught her about dealing with consequences of a personal nature. This is something Sham is doing - that is 100% Alpha - which she never anticipated in a million years - although they had agreed to not let something happen like this without a "heads up" to each other before hand.

I am also still of the belief that DB McGee wasn't her first mistake either. This is just the one that Sham knows 100% about.

I also thought was interesting was the time period between Sham's initial move-out vs. his final resolve to D. She was pretty close to sucking Sham back in - and in my opinion - daring him to do something about her sexting the old HS friend (she knew he had access to her stuff and she didn't close it down). It became most telling when Sham mention the off-the-cuff comment his wife made through the grapevine about wishing she had someone who was more Alpha than she.

Speculation aside. I'm glad Sham is where he is now. He did a great job in finally arriving to his new life.

Sham: one question for you, if I may - what does your stbxW do for a living (job title/role/industry) - kinda curious to map this to her Alpha-ness. She's not a Project Manager by any chance is she?
 
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Sham: one question for you, if I may - what does your stbxW do for a living (job title/role/industry) - kinda curious to map this to her Alpha-ness. She's not a Project Manager by any chance is she?
Let's just say project manager is a good description - she works on-site and juggles all the logistics while telling everyone else what happens until the job is done. Sorry, it's a small world, for the sake of anonymity I can't give any more detail.

Oh, and I now know DB McGee was definitely not her first mistake...just the first she planned out and fully consummated. She was gone long before I had any clue. Good thing I got tested.
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From the last time I grabbed texts (5 weeks ago-ish?). References to the dude I had come to suspect. Because earlier texts had referenced him in a negative, advantage-taking kinda way I wasn't surprised to see it clearer that she had been feeling guilty about making out w him - yes, while fantastically drunk, most likely at that company party on the west coast that I didn't attend w her in December. She doesnt know i'm aware of that or any other indiscretions (besides DB). No reason to tell her now, as R would be the only reason to bust her further and discuss. Though I'm sure she wonders if I know everything, as she doesnt know how I got my info, just that I got a lot of it without her knowing.
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But yeah, the alcohol thing on the road was a massive catalyst for disaster. No use stressing over it now though, she chose her path and I chose mine. Never envisioned it happening this way, but I'm in a good place with it now, and can only use it as a learning experience.

Date w little red tonight, btw.
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