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Actually the latest science on dealing with porn is addressing the behavioral side of it.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that labeling someone a porn addict means that the focus will not be on the real issue.
Because the treatment for addiction is usually a 12-step type programme and very lucrative group therapy sessions, all aimed and getting the person off the 'substance' and ignoring the emotional, behavioural or relationship issues.

In general I find that your overall critique of yourbrainonporn.com is excluding the other studies, research, and anecdotal evidences that agree with yourbrainonporn.
Bring them on. Let's try and keep it to peer-reviewed statistical studies rather than Dr Oz and Marnia Robinson.
 

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Yes there are some groups that focus on the twelve step principles, but the newest and most successful groups are focusing on peer support and behavioral change.

I would bring it on, but you will just hand pick what ever it is that fits your agenda. You know that there are studies on both sides of the fence and so you would just refute my evidence with your evidence.

By the way, your continued focus on your idea that this is some sort of "lucrative" practice is in error, and that belief is poisoning your opinion. But of course the porn industry has no interest in money, do they?
 

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I would bring it on, but you will just hand pick what ever it is that fits your agenda. You know that there are studies on both sides of the fence and so you would just refute my evidence with your evidence.
Nothing huh?
 

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Just to relate to my previous post above, and to, relate it to a peer-reviewed study, I offer the following for pondering, not to backup my thesis, but as a point of discussion:

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10720162.2013.768126#

Now, the base theory of this article anticipates that "porn addiction" isn't an impulse control issue, but rather a subset of hyper-sexuality disorder, ie - a disorder related to nymphomania. And here's the criteria by which they make that diagnosis:

(Click link above and click on: TABLE 1 Proposed Diagnostic Criteria for Hypersexual Disorder)

Personally, from a 100% non-professional opinion, I'd imagine that such a problem could stem from any one of a multitude of underlying issues similiar to say - anorexia. Anorexia syndrome labels the manifestation of the disease, its symptoms, and how it presents itself. However- it is still recognizes that the underlying issue that is causing the disorder could stem from any number of biological or environmental factors. And thus the drive to not only deal with the symptoms (the manifestations of the syndrome) but also the root cause.

As such, I can agree that some mindsets (like the study I cite) are off-queue when addressing the "porn addiction" issue. If they presume that the cause is always sexual in nature, they are ignoring other factors that might be in play. Like a biological issue (seratonin issue?) or an environmental one (that it's become someone's stress release and they need a wider knowledge of coping techniques.)

So, at base, as noted in my other post, I don't disagree with the idea that within certain criteria this is a syndrome that might need labeling for treatment purposes, but - I do agree that it needs to be properly handled. That the social stigma and discomfort with the topic shouldn't influence the treatment of the problem, as - that's a bit too akin to how all female sexual problems were lumped into "hysteria" without careful consideration.

Edit: Didn't realize my links were user specific, fixed now!
 

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, folks, but Gary Wilson is a fraud. He was just confronted by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation for a lack of credentials. He and his wife tried to sue to shut them up:
The ethics of interviews

they also regularly remove dissenters from their many blogs:
O Mangue: Marnia Robinson, Gary Wilson and The Good Men Project Magazine

If this isn't enough to make it obvious, ask any neuroscientist about his claims. He gets basic brain anatomy incorrect and cannot possibly have read most of the articles he mentions (they are behind a pay wall he cannot access as a non-academic). He is lying to everyone to glorify himself.

I am not claiming people don't have real problem sexual behaviors, but it is pretty easy to say Gary Wilson and his video are making the problems worse with intentional misinformation.
 
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