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On average young people have less capital than old people. so its natural that their politics leans in the direction of redistributing capital.

Beyond that I think both the left and right have forgotten the lessons of the 20th century. Socialism and Nationalism both lead to very dark places.

(I mean *real* socialism, the the social democracies of northern europe where are completely different).
 

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I am glad he was able to distill it down to they are stupid and/or not educated. I think that will just be my response to everyone that disagrees with my political/economic philosophies.

It is way easier than thinking they might have a valid reason, or capacity to think for themselves.

Prager is a plague in the internet.

From an article not on a right wing conservative site about this:

The fact that Millennials want a more socially and economically inclusive society doesn’t necessarily mean they are embracing old-school socialism or communism. Perhaps they are really redefining the words in their own terms.
Socialism for them has a drastically different meaning than it did for older generations who have lived through the dangers caused by despots and tyrants like Lenin, Stalin and Fidel Castro. But they’ve also endured the disaster caused by unbridled and unchecked capitalism. Reality for them has been the economic crash of 2007-2008.
They aren’t interested in what happened forty years ago, but what they’re witness to in the present age. What’s affecting their lives now? As someone so aptly put it: “It’s the economy, stupid.”
Socialism or communism are viewed by Millennials as an alternative to the disasters capitalism has created. And this generation may be on the verge of re-defining the terms to fit their experience.
Perhaps Millennials are choosing to create a “More Perfect Union, For the People and by the People” in their own way, and in the context of the times they live in.
It is their generation who will ultimately be in charge, it’s their time and they are choosing to shape the world as they see fit.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/this-is-why-millennials-favor-socialism_b_58ed0feae4b0145a227cb8d3
 

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I am glad he was able to distill it down to they are stupid and/or not educated. I think that will just be my response to everyone that disagrees with my political/economic philosophies.

It is way easier than thinking they might have a valid reason, or capacity to think for themselves.

Prager is a plague in the internet.

From an article not on a right wing conservative site about this:

The fact that Millennials want a more socially and economically inclusive society doesn’t necessarily mean they are embracing old-school socialism or communism. Perhaps they are really redefining the words in their own terms.
Socialism for them has a drastically different meaning than it did for older generations who have lived through the dangers caused by despots and tyrants like Lenin, Stalin and Fidel Castro. But they’ve also endured the disaster caused by unbridled and unchecked capitalism. Reality for them has been the economic crash of 2007-2008.
They aren’t interested in what happened forty years ago, but what they’re witness to in the present age. What’s affecting their lives now? As someone so aptly put it: “It’s the economy, stupid.”
Socialism or communism are viewed by Millennials as an alternative to the disasters capitalism has created. And this generation may be on the verge of re-defining the terms to fit their experience.
Perhaps Millennials are choosing to create a “More Perfect Union, For the People and by the People” in their own way, and in the context of the times they live in.
It is their generation who will ultimately be in charge, it’s their time and they are choosing to shape the world as they see fit.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/this-is-why-millennials-favor-socialism_b_58ed0feae4b0145a227cb8d3
It's hard to convince people of that when you have 3% unemployment rate and 12 years of economic growth. Not enough dissatisfied people to wreck the economy. The revolutionaries better wait till the next economic slowdown.

BTW, the US hardly has unchecked capitalism. There is so much red tape and hoops to jump through, companies need a whole department to deal with government/SEC demands.
 

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On average young people have less capital than old people. so its natural that their politics leans in the direction of redistributing capital.

Beyond that I think both the left and right have forgotten the lessons of the 20th century. Socialism and Nationalism both lead to very dark places.

(I mean *real* socialism, the the social democracies of northern europe where are completely different).
I am not sure that explains it.

Despite the assertions, people who work for a living are more likely to vote Labour or Democrat rather than Conservative or Republican.

There is the Douglas Adams quote:
"Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.”

It seems more like a balance of preference between the traditional order against the onset of modernity.

People who admire the traditional order will vote Republican. This tends to increase with age, as new things become alientating. But, also it you are from a more traditional society, or take pride in identity with the traditional order.

Otherwise, the vote goes to the more liberal party.
 

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It's hard to convince people of that when you have 3% unemployment rate and 12 years of economic growth. Not enough dissatisfied people to wreck the economy. The revolutionaries better wait till the next economic slowdown.

BTW, the US hardly has unchecked capitalism. There is so much red tape and hoops to jump through, companies need a whole department to deal with government/SEC demands.
And somehow, through all of that red tape, and hoop jumping, corporations are able to make billions of dollars while the bottom half of the country makes barely enough to survive. I sure hope they are ok, maybe we should give them more subsidies or tax breaks.
 

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And somehow, through all of that red tape, and hoop jumping, corporations are able to make billions of dollars while the bottom half of the country makes barely enough to survive. I sure hope they are ok, maybe we should give them more subsidies or tax breaks.
And that's why we have elections. If enough people want change, all they have to do is vote.
 

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And that's why we have elections. If enough people want change, all they have to do is vote.
Well, yes, aside from the effects of Republican gerrymandering and voter suppression affecting the outcomes.
 

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And somehow, through all of that red tape, and hoop jumping, corporations are able to make billions of dollars while the bottom half of the country makes barely enough to survive. I sure hope they are ok, maybe we should give them more subsidies or tax breaks.
I know your smart enough to realize that the corporation don't just keep all that money. Yes some of it goes out in grossly high pay and stock to the executives, the majority goes out as dividends to stock holders. For most corporations the majority stock holders are mutual funds that are in most of our 401K plans.
 

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I know your smart enough to realize that the corporation don't just keep all that money. Yes some of it goes out in grossly high pay and stock to the executives, the majority goes out as dividends to stock holders. For most corporations the majority stock holders are mutual funds that are in most of our 401K plans.
Around 80-85% of all stocks are owned by the top 10% so, even if it were true that corporations paid it all back out in dividends, it still goes to the top.
 

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Unbridled capitalism? In the USA? The meltdown of 2008 caused by capitalism?

Such claims reveal total ignorance about how government regulations/laws (aka government central planning) artificially skew the free market. Capitalism is the free market. Government meddling is not capitalism.
 

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I am really glad you guys can focus in on one or two words (that are not the point of the paragraph) and dismiss it all. Whatever you want to call it, this is the view of the millennials. The system, as it is, whatever you want to call it, has done them no favors and has actually set them up for a life of servitude, debt, and unrealized American Dreams. You can poopoo that all day, and it won't change a thing.
 

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I am really glad you guys can focus in on one or two words (that are not the point of the paragraph) and dismiss it all. Whatever you want to call it, this is the view of the millennials. The system, as it is, whatever you want to call it, has done them no favors and has actually set them up for a life of servitude, debt, and unrealized American Dreams. You can poopoo that all day, and it won't change a thing.
That is about as whiny as a millenial would sound. Everyone pretty much starts off from a status of debt (school, house, cars) for half their life. Then they accumulate skills and wealth of turn the corner. Millennials will do the same eventually. Then they will be complaining about the next gen being whiny commies.
 

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Around 80-85% of all stocks are owned by the top 10% so, even if it were true that corporations paid it all back out in dividends, it still goes to the top.
Ok, so how do you propose to fix it?
 

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I am really glad you guys can focus in on one or two words (that are not the point of the paragraph) and dismiss it all. Whatever you want to call it, this is the view of the millennials. The system, as it is, whatever you want to call it, has done them no favors and has actually set them up for a life of servitude, debt, and unrealized American Dreams. You can poopoo that all day, and it won't change a thing.

And specifically how has today's environment been harsher on them, than decades past?

Just don't go directly to student debt on autopilot. Each generation of students encountered same higher education challenges.

Although granted today it appears there are more "feel good" classes and degrees (but billable by colleges!) that don't provide higher earning potential capabilities for many students that got sucked into degrees with poor returns on investment.
 
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