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Pudgy older fathers live longer, are more attractive to the opposite sex and are better at passing on their genes than their leaner counterparts, scientists have claimed.

Becoming fatter after fatherhood due to decreasing testosterone levels may not fit the “macho” ideal, but it actually prolongs lives and strengthens immune systems, according to Richard Bribiescas, professor of anthropology and deputy provost at Yale University.

There is evidence that these men are less likely to suffer from heart attacks and prostate cancer, while a study in 2008 found that men with high metabolisms were around 50 per cent more likely to die in a given year than those whose bodies burned up less energy at rest.

“Macho makes you sick,” said Prof Bribiescas. “The Hollywood image of the swaggering, dashing man dispatching bad guys and carrying the day conjures up a perception of indestructibility.

“While men are on average larger and physically stronger than women, men have a considerable weakness.

“We have a harder time fighting off infections and illness compared with women, and… men simply do not take care of themselves.

“This has a significant negative impact on the pace at which men age.”

Prof Bribiescas also argues that becoming more podgy makes dads more likely to invest their time in their children rather than looking for other women, while the increased levels of fat could make them more attractive to women.

“[One] effect of lower testosterone levels is loss of muscle mass and increases in fat mass,” Prof Bribiescas writes in his book How Men Age: What Evolution Reveals About Male Health and Mortality.

“This change in body composition not only causes men to shop for more comfortable trousers but also facilitates increased survivorship and, hypothetically, a hormonal milieu that would more effectively promote and support paternal investment.”

The research follows the "dad bod" trend, in which middle-aged men were praised for their doughy physiques.

However, a Cambridge University study last year found that women searching for a father for their children should choose long-distance runners, who traditionally have very low levels of fat, because they are more likely to have stronger sex drives and higher sperm counts.
Chubby older fathers are more attractive to women and live longer, scientists say

Lol, I love how one of the Professors sensationalizes the article by stating "Macho makes you sick". Also love how the authors are basically promoting lower testosterone levels as a positive.

Nowhere in the article does it state what is considered "pudgy" vs what is considered obese. Also, you could argue that some women may find this physique more attractive simply b/c it plays into their own insecurities (i.e. if your SO is in great shape you could potentially feel worse about your own physique.).
 

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Stop the presses! Are they saying women may be attracted to mature men who are proven stable providers that are willing and able to care for children? I'm shocked!

Not to mention that once one falls into the older category, there are less single men who want a relationship available, women's biological clocks are ticking, and women may be more willing to overlook pudgy in order to have a mate and offspring. In other words, attractive to women doesn't necessarily mean physically/sexually. There are a lot of women out there who are willing to sacrifice sexual attraction to have companionship, stability, and a family.
 

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Stop the presses! Are they saying women may be attracted to mature men who are proven stable providers that are willing and able to care for children? I'm shocked!
It's a stupid article with headline to get you to read to generate ad hits. A proper study would be to compare fit fathers who are stable providers and care for the kids with unfit ones. Then see which one women find more attractive.
 

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The article never makes the claim that pudgy guys are more attractive to women beyond the title.

Probably because they're not.

In the article it's not even discussed....unless I missed it.

All it claimed is that pudgy guys invest more time in their children, which even if true doesn't mean they're attractive.

Sounds like a crap article with a headline made up to get people to click.
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When chubby older father gets divorced at 45, let's see how women in the dating scene find the fat attractive. :slap:
Duuuude, you have NO idea!

My dad lost my mom unexpectedly at 43. My dad worked 60-80 hours a week as an asphalt laborer and later as a foreman, yet had a truck tire around his middle. Dad also had my two younger siblings, then aged 13 and 11, to raise. He was always one of those guys who needs a woman and is helpless without one. After mom had been gone a year, I started making him go out hoping to help him find a new mate. I even offered to go with him as his wing man.

I kid you not, the first night we went out to the bars he got 3 phone numbers from very attractive women in the 25-33 year old age range with absolutely zero assist from me. I was stunned! I thought it was a fluke, but it was like that every time we went out. By the end of summer, he'd been on countless dates and had started seriously seeing a woman 2 years older than me. They've been married 11 years now.

I literally don't know an involuntarily single chubby/pudgy father in his 40's or older. Not one.
 

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The article never makes the claim that pudgy guys are more attractive to women beyond the title.

Probably because they're not.

In the article it's not even discussed....unless I missed it.

All it claimed is that pudgy guys invest more time in their children, which even if true doesn't mean they're attractive.

Sounds like a crap article with a headline made up to get people to click.
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Here is one quote from the article

Prof Bribiescas also argues that becoming more podgy makes dads more likely to invest their time in their children rather than looking for other women, while the increased levels of fat could make them more attractive to women.
So they are saying it "could".

I do agree it is a crap / click bait article
 

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It's a stupid article with headline to get you to read to generate ad hits. A proper study would be to compare fit fathers who are stable providers and care for the kids with unfit ones. Then see which one women find more attractive.
That's easy if we make a few assumptions. If the women are looking for marriage and children or marriage and a partner willing to help raise existing children, the more attractive man will be whichever one is looking for the same.

*Physical/sexual attraction isn't the only kind of attraction used to determine whether or not to have a serious relationship leading to marriage.
 

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I also find it interesting the correlation they try to make, implying that "pudgy" men are more willing to invest in their children (pretty much saying pudgy men are more likely to be better fathers).
 

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Getting a mate and keeping a mate require different strategies - there is still a good deal of overlap. And yes, it's true that married men and men with children have lower testosterone levels, which lowers aggression and the desire to seek out new women, thus making them more likely to stick around and be good fathers while their children are young. The risk is that eventually their wife will want another child, and wanting the best genes, will dump mild Mister Milquetoast dad bod and seek the more wild "masculine" guy, hoping to eventually turn him into a supportive dad bod type, too! Some of the smarter guys may get back in shape a few years after the last kid, and smarter women may treasure the good, reliable man and father they already have over some fitter (sexier) unknown.
 

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Here is one quote from the article



So they are saying it "could".

I do agree it is a crap / click bait article
Ok, I did miss that one.

It's just based on nothing.....any of us can hypothesize anything we want.

The author is probably pudgy and wants to make himself feel better.
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I also find it interesting the correlation they try to make, implying that "pudgy" men are more willing to invest in their children (pretty much saying pudgy men are more likely to be better fathers).
There is a theory that men are more protected against the bonding hormones released during sex because their higher testosterone levels block some of the effects. These are some of the same hormones released when bonding with a child.

If this theory is correct then it makes sense these men would be more bonded to their wives and children then men with higher testosterone levels who are more immune to the effects of bonding hormones. These guys may actually be more willing to invest in their children, and be considered better fathers, because of the effects of the bonding hormones they are now less immune to.
 

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There is a theory that men are more protected against the bonding hormones released during sex because their higher testosterone levels block some of the effects. These are some of the same hormones released when bonding with a child.

If this theory is correct then it makes sense these men would be more bonded to their wives and children then men with higher testosterone levels who are more immune to the effects of bonding hormones. These guys may actually be more willing to invest in their children, and be considered better fathers, because of the effects of the bonding hormones they are now less immune to.
I do understand the theory behind it. I just think it is dangerous to basically imply that if two fathers are standing next to each other, one pudgy, the other in good shape, the pudgy one must be the better father willing to invest more time in his children.
 

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I am doomed. He must have used my biometrics and my story.

Problem:
I will be back. Next year, or in another life.

He said nothing about Foxy Mate Attraction. Vixens love Alphas
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Side note data trashing:

Which cohort dies at a higher rate in Wars, in Traffic accidents, in all other Accidents, are Murdered, or are in jail for Murder or other Felonies? Which group participates more in risky behavior?

The Lean and Mean Alphas and their wanna-bees'

Their chubbier fellows are more tame and do live longer. For this reason they pass on more of their genes. I agree with the chemical/hormonal aspects of behavior and its effect on longevity.

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The Western World is becoming more chubby, both men and women. The Third World? No. And they are hungry, anxious and violent prone. The alpha males dominate those societies.

Can the West stand up to this threat?

Will we allow our Alpha Men to guard the Gates and the Wall. Will we let them do their job? What will be the "Rules of Engagement"?

If we do allow MEN to be MEN then more of their cohort will die, leaving more [numerical and genetic] Jodies to guard the Nest.

Rome Fell, when the coffers went empty, when available land became scarce [land offered to soldiers], when Alpha Romans were killed off, when corruption/debauchery killed the Nationalist Spirit, when lead got into their drinking, water, when available defenders were Mercenaries and when Third World Alpha Huns stormed the Gate. The Huns burned and razed everything. They also raped every women they could. They replenished the weakened genes with those of the Savage. Does this sound familiar, Dear Westerners, Mr and Mrs. America?

I fear, do you?
 

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The article never makes the claim that pudgy guys are more attractive to women beyond the title.

Probably because they're not.

In the article it's not even discussed....unless I missed it.

All it claimed is that pudgy guys invest more time in their children, which even if true doesn't mean they're attractive.

Sounds like a crap article with a headline made up to get people to click.
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I agree. Physical fitness and looks are what make a woman notice a man in the first place.
 
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