[InlandTXMM]

This will probably be controversial, but my time here (as well as my own experience with infidelity) leads me more and more to believe that the main propellant of female infidelity is the weak, waffling, Nice Guy beta male.

This post-feminist notion, that men should be soft and effete and complacent and nearly apologetic for having been born male is the cause of so much of society's ills today.

It isn't that women are in the workplace that is causing the rise in female infidelity. It's that women in the workplace are seeing Alphas all day and coming home to a panty-folding Beta.

 

[joe kidd]

Maybe. Not in all cases. I was a walking , talking alpha d*ck.

 

[InlandTXMM]

Maybe. Not in all cases. I was a walking , talking alpha d*ck.

You only thought you were. A man acting Alpha is not an alpha.

 

[Shadow_Nirvana]

You only thought you were. A man acting Alpha is not an alpha.

No true Scotsman, eh? You are so wrong with your ideology post up there... but hey, I guess you'll learn in time.

 

[joe kidd]

You only thought you were. A man acting Alpha is not an alpha.

Jesus. Carry on.

 

[treyvion]

You only thought you were. A man acting Alpha is not an alpha.

You act like an Alpha can't be cheated on. She can be jealous of the Alpha and cheat on him for that alone.

 

[ScarletBegonias]

yup,those dang wimmens need to be in that kitchen where they belong.

Could you be a little more narrow?

Career gal here married to a super nice man...I'd rather cut off a limb than betray him.

But way to paint with the most broad brush you could find:smthumbup:

 

[convert]

I do not know.
you maybe right i thought i was an alpha in the beginning of our marriage but over time it has erroded, maybe i never was.

I guess betas can have alpha moments

 

[treyvion]

yup,those dang wimmens need to be in that kitchen where they belong.

Could you be a little more narrow?

Career gal here married to a super nice man...I'd rather cut off a limb than betray him.

But way to paint with the most broad brush you could find:smthumbup:

So your telling me that you'd appreciate a nice and loving man more than a highly dominant and assertive Alpha of a man?

 

[ScarletBegonias]

So your telling me that you'd appreciate a nice and loving man more than a highly dominant and assertive Alpha of a man?

I had a high dominant and assertive Alpha of a man.It was like living in a nightmare.

The nice and loving man is the way to go for me.He's perfection

 

[Thound]

yup,those dang wimmens need to be in that kitchen where they belong.

Could you be a little more narrow?

Career gal here married to a super nice man...I'd rather cut off a limb than betray him.

But way to paint with the most broad brush you could find:smthumbup:

Broad brush? Was the pun intended? Alpha/Beta: a pos will cheat on either one.
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[AnnieAsh]

It doesn't really have anything to do with the BS, does it? It comes down to the boundaries of the WS. My husband is a gun-toting, 6'1 federal agent. He's been to war. He's a pretty gruff guy. My EA wasn't really because he was too "alpha" or not "alpha" enough.

It came down to my lack of boundaries.

 

[cj9947]

I, personally, find this alpha vs beta subject to be a bunch of bullsh*t. It makes me think of the people who talk about social darwinism to justify their personal agenda.

My wife would have cheated on Atilla the Hun. She had issues from her childhood that colored her adult behavior. Cheaters are damaged people. They should not be used as a model of whether a man is an alpha male or a beta male.

My wife's affair partner dodged me for a year. I was demanding a face to face apology. He refused and said I did not deserve one. I am a man who does not take no for an answer. Well, in front of his lawyer, his wife, the baillif, the court stenographer, the court audience and the judge; he cried and apologized to my face!!!!

So "F" this alpha vs beta sh*t.

 

[treyvion]

I know a guy through business who is a total Alpha. Former professional athlete, always ahead of the curve on his career path, scratch golfer. When he was single he played the field like all get out. He was a BIG GUY in a BIG CITY. He is the very embodiment of a swaggering Alpha.

He finally got married and settled down. Two kids later his wife has an affair and takes off with OM.

She won! Just joking, but this is how they do it. He probably bleed down his Alpha, and niced up a bit for the wifey and fam, but she got excited by another Alpha who is moving up.

 

[ConanHub]

I pretty much concur with what has already been said. I think it comes down to the character traits of the WS more than the BS. That being said, I find beta males mostly repulsive and have a hard time being around them. I have seen the wives of betas disrespect them and walk away more often than to Alpha types.

Maybe beta characteristics are just an unattractive trait that push women away more often. Can't speak for women, but my wife and my best friend wife both love alphas, considerate, non ignorant alphas that is.
I think being engaged intimately with your wife would probably do the most good to diffuse a potential infidelity.
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[ConanHub]

I, personally, find this alpha vs beta subject to be a bunch of bullsh*t. It makes me think of the people who talk about social darwinism to justify their personal agenda.

My wife would have cheated on Atilla the Hun. She had issues from her childhood that colored her adult behavior. Cheaters are damaged people. They should not be used as a model of whether a man is an alpha male or a beta male.

My wife's affair partner dodged me for a year. I was demanding a face to face apology. He refused and said I did not deserve one. I am a man who does not take no for an answer. Well, in front of his lawyer, his wife, the baillif, the court stenographer, the court audience and the judge; he cried and apologized to my face!!!!

So "F" this alpha vs beta sh*t.

I love your story man! I am the same way but my lady is no cheater.
Did you reconcile with WW or divorce?
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[sidney2718]

yup,those dang wimmens need to be in that kitchen where they belong.

Could you be a little more narrow?

Career gal here married to a super nice man...I'd rather cut off a limb than betray him.

But way to paint with the most broad brush you could find:smthumbup:

<grin> Just because you are wiser than some women doesn't mean that some women don't act according to the stereotype.

 

[badmemory]

I believe there is something to the alpha male attraction. But I also believe alpha's have to have some beta characteristics in order to have the best chance for a long relationship. Otherwise they are open to being cheated on as well.

But all beta; good luck. See promisekeeper's thread for an example. It's hard to read.

 

[Squeakr]

I don't believe it. I can see the thought process, but still don't believe it.
If the man were so Alpha as is expected wouldn't he then be a cheater in training by the same proposed theory, as the truly burly Alphas are pruned and expected to be players at heart, right?

 

[Ikaika]

The word "nice" is too vague in describing someone in the principle suggested. I tend think of more definitive terms, confident, person of his/words and convictions, willing to admit wrongs but strong in standing behind his/her principles. I just don't equate nice as the same as weak. Kanaka Maoli (native Hawaiians) live by the principles of Aloha (by some could be consider a nice term), but one should never assume Aloha implies weakness (we come from a warrior class - controlled power). So the term nice to me just has a poor definition in this context.