[Rob_1]

The way way I see it you must be either a bisexual or homosexual woman. Sooner or later mother nature was coming to knock on your door for you to be attracted to another woman to this level. You are what you are, but it would be extremely unfair to your husband for him to not know about your sexual orientation. You need to understand that at some time, now or in the future you will act on your homosexual tendencies. Inform him so that he can make an informed decision.

I tell you, as a man I couldn't never for a second stay with a woman that is attracted to women, because I understand that in the end eventually she would leave me for another woman. This is what eventually will be your real struggle. No fair to your husband, plus if you are really this attracted to this other woman, you really, really do not love your husband. You might love him, but not in love with him, because if you were in love with him you wouldn't be into another person male or female.

 

[Rob_1]

sexual norms are a good deal looser, and gender roles relaxed, today. we are looking at this with baby boomer eyes.....so we need to temper our responses somewhat

Sorry to burst your bubble, but mother nature doesn't give a flying hoop, about who, where, when, sexual/social norms are relaxed. Mother nature only cares about about the continuation of the species by natural selection.

Most humans would default to what as a species is the most genetically advantageous for the continuation. It's supposed to be within yourself to naturally, instinctively discriminate and reject that that it's not advantageous.

While in most cultures that instinct is still there, in some of the western cultures that instinct is somewhat waning to the point that we not longer recognize what's advantageous as a specie, but what's is no longer cool in order to appease every new social skewed mores being introduced as part of social equality that is cool, because we are giving them their freedom to allow for example two individuals with down's syndrome to marry and procreate, introducing as time goes by more and more undesirable genetic material into the genetic pool.

We a lot times knowingly mate and procreate with individuals that obviously from the get go have mental illness; continuing with the transfer of those undesirable genes.

It's beyond me why a straight person knowingly marries a person that is homosexual or whatever sexual they might be, when your average outcome is normally that the non straight person eventually, some day will leave the straight sucker for someone of their own gender, not to mention that if there are children involved the effect on those children with the destruction of their family, plus once again the perpetuation of passing non desirable genes.

If you were to go to one of those indigenous, so called "primitive" tribes that still exist, and you see what they do with those individuals that for example have mental illness. You don't see them mating with them, what you most likely will see is that individuals relegated as someone touched by the spirits, and is non touchable. Try to do that in western societies. These "primitive" people don't need a PhD to instinctively know not to mate with someone that does not comfort to what's advantageous to pass on to the potential progeny

Little by little our mighty western world is becoming one of all kind of degenerations being accepted and embraced as cool and normal. We will see in the end where that will lead us as a species.

 

[Rob_1]

MOST people with Down’s syndrome are sterile. Just sayin…. But I get what you mean…

And that's the crux of my point "MOST", but not all. A percentage of females with Trisomy 21 are fertile, while invariably "almost" all males are infertile, but I gave the example as an extreme to make the point of what's at stake when we choose to ignore mother nature, as we seem to mostly do nowadays.

 

[Rob_1]

No

Supposed by whom or by what?

What is natural to you is unnatural to others - that is how humans are. There is no known mechanism for us to "naturally, instinctively discriminate and reject that that it's(sic) not advantageous." How do you think that could happen?

As you say evolution is about the continuation of the species - but evolution is not aiming at anything, it is merely a process in which many different variations occur naturally; some aid reproduction, some don't and most have no immediate effect. Those that aid tend to become common - but common is not universal - otherwise the variations gained by sexual reproduction would cease and our ability to respond to changing environments might be (fatally) limited.

No. You are wrong. There are forces within any species that gear towards that that ensures the most successful outcome, whether consciously or directed.

So that we don't go to far, take humans males for example; on a primeval basis, without specific cultural bias, most of them around the world would prefer and be attracted to the almost hour glass figure of females in order to mate and procreate, now take that female figure and let's say for example that for some biological reason, females with that shape can't after a while procreate, the pressure on males would be to switch to let's say for example to a pear shape female that is fertile every time. Here natural selection is taking place,and in humans is not only instinctive, but also a choice.

What you are referring to is the random environmental factors that affects most species that can't adapt to the changing factors, like an specialized species, such as pandas. Each species, and sub-species, would only eat a specific type of bamboo. This type of bamboo dies, the panda goes with it too.
We humans have passed that threshold, but the problem with it is that although not longer subjected to random environmental factors (to a point), we still are subjected to many other factors, such as ignoring genetic factors that even a "primitive" aboriginal can tell you that is a no no, such as continuous inbreeding, generation after generation.
Well, I could go on, but just have to go watch a movie, after that charred octopus and scallops and a bottle of wine. But we can continue tomorrow as to why genetic pressures in humans are being taking into consideration or not by western cultures.

 

[Rob_1]

Nonsense - there is no way that the members of a species can consciously know what would be the most successful way to achieve an outcome.

If by "direction" you mean our evolved DNA - yup - We are DNA factories. Elephants make more elephant DNA, oaks produce more oak DNA, gnats make more gnat DNA and humans make more human DNA.

If you mean something other than DNA - what?




No -
1- You assume that men only want to mate with women who are going to produce their children - even though they cannot tell whether a women can have children. That is contrary to human behaviour.
2 - You misunderstand "natural" selection - under your scenario natural selection would result in a mainly pear-shaped population of women and men's preferences would become irrelevant.

I hope you enjoyed your film - I suggest next time you have a couple of spare hours you read up on natural selection
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So we don't have to thread Jack, I will just tell you that no, I don't need to read on natural selection. As a trained scientist in the biological sciences, I have studied all about it.

Since this is not the forum for such a topic, I would welcome you to open such topic on the appropriate forum (social forum)? Where scientific postulates can be debated. I would joint you there. Peace.

 

[Rob_1]

Well, the cat's out of the bag so to speak. Based on his reaction the mistrust seed has been planted in his mind. It's going to be difficult for him to rationalize that he has nothing to worry about from now on.
Sorry to be pessimistic, but this might be the beginning of the end as far as he's concerned in the long run.

 

[Rob_1]

Yep, the cat is out of the bag Rob_1. And I don’t have any more secrets, just a bruised face.

If you let him get away with hitting you this time, he might feel entitled next time he's angry to do it again. You cannot let this pass. Is up to you to let it pass this time (which I don't advice),but if he ever tries again, then you know it really is the end.

 

[Rob_1]

has the other woman discussed an attraction to you? She may not share the interest you have in her.

This is in her OP:

haven’t acted on this attraction, but it’s there. We’ve both acknowledged it and that’s as far as it’s gone.

Admitting that she feels the same didn’t help me at all.

So, there's your answer. The other teacher may also be a lesbian or into women too.