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My doctor will be starting me on TRT after holidays using injection. He said after taught I can self-inject. Am new to this, wondering if others have found a forum for TRT patients that was helpful. All I find on the web are essentially ad sites
 

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Check out the bodybuilding forums online. Quite a few of those dudes are taking some sort of testosterone or at least have plenty of experience with it.
 

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I think a number of guys here have done it. Give it a little time. I bet a couple show up with experience
 

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I have been on pellets for about 2 years. My wife did shots that I would give her, but has since gone to pellets.
 

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I've been on TRT for about 5 years and went through pretty much everything. I still get bloods every quarter. It took a while to dial it in correctly, but once you do, you're good to go. Your wife may be sore for a little while at first...lol
 

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I've been on TRT for about 5 years and went through pretty much everything. I still get bloods every quarter. It took a while to dial it in correctly, but once you do, you're good to go. Your wife may be sore for a little while at first...lol
What do you mean by "everything"? And what is your age? I am 72. Do you know of a forum for patients to discuss their progress/problems? Hate to clog up this forum with such a narrow focused discussion
 

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My doctor will be starting me on TRT after holidays using injection. He said after taught I can self-inject. Am new to this, wondering if others have found a forum for TRT patients that was helpful. All I find on the web are essentially ad sites
What info are you looking for exactly. Or are you just looking for a place to read about what others have experienced. Hormone replacement is a pretty individual experience. What dose frequency are you starting with?
 

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What info are you looking for exactly. Or are you just looking for a place to read about what others have experienced. Hormone replacement is a pretty individual experience. What dose frequency are you starting with?
I am looking for opportunity to read and dialog with others who are already walking this road. Have so far read everything from "TRT is best thing since sliced bread" to "it is a horrible mistake." I basically convinced the urologist who removed my prostate nearly 2 decades ago to begin treating me. Every other doctor visited refused to prescribe treatment, telling me "it is just normal aging, get used to it." The third blood test over last four months finally confirmed a low free number, so he is starting me on "low dose" shot every two weeks. I know that is too infrequent, and pellets are likely the right answer. And, an endocrinologist is probably the right specialty to manage treatment, but so far haven't found one willing to treat a prostate cancer survivor. So, one step at a time. I am thinking may need to coach the doctor based on my own research?

My major complaint is that about 10% of time ED med ( Cialis or Viagra) seems to have no effect at all, regardless of dose. Libido in the upper head not making it to the other head. About 1/2 time ED med is totally unnecessary. I believe the free testosterone is fluctuating and sometimes drops way too low. Most times it is adequate.
 

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I am looking for opportunity to read and dialog with others who are already walking this road. Have so far read everything from "TRT is best thing since sliced bread" to "it is a horrible mistake." I basically convinced the urologist who removed my prostate nearly 2 decades ago to begin treating me. Every other doctor visited refused to prescribe treatment, telling me "it is just normal aging, get used to it." The third blood test over last four months finally confirmed a low free number, so he is starting me on "low dose" shot every two weeks. I know that is too infrequent, and pellets are likely the right answer. And, an endocrinologist is probably the right specialty to manage treatment, but so far haven't found one willing to treat a prostate cancer survivor. So, one step at a time. I am thinking may need to coach the doctor based on my own research?

My major complaint is that about 10% of time ED med ( Cialis or Viagra) seems to have no effect at all, regardless of dose. Libido in the upper head not making it to the other head. About 1/2 time ED med is totally unnecessary. I believe the free testosterone is fluctuating and sometimes drops way too low. Most times it is adequate.
Good luck, The dosage every two weeks depends on the ester base of the T. I assume he has you on Testosterone enthanate or cypionate. 10 days is probably better and will keep your blood levels higher with less taper in the last few days. If by Low dose you mean 50mg per shot and under you're not going to notice much, 100mg and up you'll notice it more. If you have Low T 200mg every two weeks should give you a good noticeable boost. But everyone is different.

Also keep your eye on aromatization. Basically you don't want to end up with too much conversion to estrogen. Shouldn't be a problem at low doses but best to watch diet and things. Too much soy is bad veggies like broccoli and cauliflower have been suggested to help flush excess estrogen.

And take advantage of the hormone boost ad increase the workout routine. More intense workouts can stimulate some natural production and your mood and energy will go through the roof.

I haven't seen many TRT forums but as someone mentioned earlier body building forums are full of guys and gals using T. Many, especially the 40+ crowd, are using TRT. Elitefitness is one I use to go to from time to time. Just watch out with the information from body builders some guys on there are stacking HUGE doses of stuff. Like 1000mg+ a week of test plus 2-3 anabolic compounds on top for months and months. Good way to shorten your life span.
 

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Good luck, The dosage every two weeks depends on the ester base of the T. I assume he has you on Testosterone enthanate or cypionate. 10 days is probably better and will keep your blood levels higher with less taper in the last few days. If by Low dose you mean 50mg per shot and under you're not going to notice much, 100mg and up you'll notice it more. If you have Low T 200mg every two weeks should give you a good noticeable boost. But everyone is different.
Thank you so much for the info! And can you tell me how long you have been using TRT? And your age? I am 72.

With dieting and increased exercise ( fast walking 3 miles/day, beginning to run some too ) I have lost about 30 lb in last three months, about 1/2 way to my goal, trying to drop body fat to decrease E2 manufacturer. My total T has only moved from 290 to 390 in that time, which doubt is significant.

Main reason for trying TRT is about 10% of time ( about every ten days ), ED med ( Cialis or Viagra ) seems to have no effect at all, regardless of dose. Two urologists were insisting on Trimix rather than Testosterone, but seemed to me if Cialis and Viagra didn't work no vascular dilation agent would work.
 

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What do you mean by "everything"? And what is your age? I am 72. Do you know of a forum for patients to discuss their progress/problems? Hate to clog up this forum with such a narrow focused discussion
TRTANDHORMONEOPTIMIZATION on you tube. They have a FB page also. My urologist is on alot of the videos Dr. Robert Grant. I have been on TRT for 11 yrs. Tried testim gel didn't work. Dr said some people do not absorb well through skin. Wife was out of her compounded cream for a bit and she used some of my gel, drop about the size of a pea, about an 1/8th of my dose....she was like a ravenous cougar...good for me!

I had to go to injection i do myself. 1/2 mil 2x week. Level maintains around 1100 at top of range. Dr said men feel best there. My cousin does half that and stays about 500 and he feels fine with it.
 

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Thank you so much for the info! And can you tell me how long you have been using TRT? And your age? I am 72.

With dieting and increased exercise ( fast walking 3 miles/day, beginning to run some too ) I have lost about 30 lb in last three months, about 1/2 way to my goal, trying to drop body fat to decrease E2 manufacturer. My total T has only moved from 290 to 390 in that time, which doubt is significant.

Main reason for trying TRT is about 10% of time ( about every ten days ), ED med ( Cialis or Viagra ) seems to have no effect at all, regardless of dose. Two urologists were insisting on Trimix rather than Testosterone, but seemed to me if Cialis and Viagra didn't work no vascular dilation agent would work.
I never really went on formal TRT. I have used an online anti aging clinic for testosterone after a skiing injury that shut down all workouts for months and I used the boost to get back to top condition very quick. I also was heavily involved in body building in my early twenties and met a doctor who use to work with middle aged men for testosterone therapy before it was fashionable. I spoke to him a lot about all sorts of testosterone and other anabolics, He was very cautionary as I was still pretty young and usually when body builders get into the steroid world they take it way to far and mess themselves up. The big thing is regular blood work to make sure all your systems are functioning properly.

At 72 a rise of total T form 290 -390 is a good thing. Testosterone at the proper dose can have an amazing effect. Back a little while after having our second child my wife was having strange issues that seemed to be hormone related. She found a doctor to prescribe her 25mg a week of injectable testosterone. It did relieve the mood issues she was having and turned her into a sex crazed maniac. She actually lowered her dose because she couldn't focus on anything but sex. Her hormones kind of self regulated after a few months so she stopped but the 2-3 months she was on the 25mg a week were pretty crazy. When I was on it I was like an 18 year old, probably had an erection 40% of the waking day.

The key is focus on the T being a part of your overall wellness plan. The better your overall health the higher the ceiling is for the effectiveness of the hormones. If all goes well don't be surprised if you don't need the ED meds, unless you're looking to leave your lady bedridden for a day or so.

Expect to notice changes from the T after 2-3 weeks. There are some herbal supplements that seemed to work well also like Tribulus and Ashwagandha.
 

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The DHEA vita pak from GNC also helps. I told one elderly gent once about it as i was taking it. He bought a box. I spoke to salesman a week or so later and he said that gentleman came in a few days later and bought 2 more boxes.
 

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When I was on it I was like an 18 year old, probably had an erection 40% of the waking day.
Well, I am hoping for some modest improvement but nothing like that. I'd be happy with bridging the deep valleys happening about every ten days. Being like 18 year old would be rather embarrassing out in public, especially at church on Sunday morning.
 

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At 72, 18 again is doubtful. You'll probably notice a higher baseline energy level to start, followed by a slightly higher libido. Then as you continue to focus on health and wellness the libido will continue to go up and the ED should be much less of a problem. I am not sure how the previous prostrate issues play into that, but all things sexual in context will improve as you have higher levels of THE sex hormone. Make sure you cover any and all issues good or bad you notice with your doc especially after adjusting dosage.
 

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TRTANDHORMONEOPTIMIZATION on you tube. They have a FB page also. My urologist is on alot of the videos Dr. Robert Grant. I have been on TRT for 11 yrs. Tried testim gel didn't work. Dr said some people do not absorb well through skin. Wife was out of her compounded cream for a bit and she used some of my gel, drop about the size of a pea, about an 1/8th of my dose....she was like a ravenous cougar...good for me!

I had to go to injection i do myself. 1/2 mil 2x week. Level maintains around 1100 at top of range. Dr said men feel best there. My cousin does half that and stays about 500 and he feels fine with it.
Their Facebook group is great, I highly recommend it as well.
 

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The DHEA vita pak from GNC also helps. I told one elderly gent once about it as i was taking it. He bought a box. I spoke to salesman a week or so later and he said that gentleman came in a few days later and bought 2 more boxes.
Lol. What does DHEA do relative to testosterone? I am trying to avoid putting too many compounds into my body, according to my doctors am in phenomenal health all blood work is where it should be, just Free T is low sometimes
 
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