Just read this. I wanted to clap out loud! You did good.
We resolved that problem as well like a storm! We’re how we used to be, but more mature this time. We couldn’t get our hands off of each other when we first met. Thank you!!I’m late to this thread….. wanted to say ditto to the poster that said you need to stay vigilant when a spouse carrying on like you’re husband has abd is agreeing with you……
actions. Watch his actions. No interest in the bedroom? No interest in planning trips or nights out with you (spending real tine with you as a couple)???? Then your relationship is NOT ok, for whatever reason. But I wish you luck.
Very happy for you. I hope you will post in a few weeks and say that everything is going well and your family and you feel while again.We resolved that problem as well like a storm! We’re how we used to be, but more mature this time. We couldn’t get our hands off of each other when we first met. Thank you!!
Thanks TXTrini! This is mostly because of you guys, everyone here, who continuously encouraged me to trust my gut feeling and get to the bottom of this. I’m certain that we’re still in the same **** if I didn’t talk to you guys! Thank you!!That's a wonderful development! Good on you for acting to nip this **** in the bud now. Keep it up and stay on course, though. After a bit of doing it, he may very well get complacent.
Be on high alert OP. Don't become complacent now. Your husband IS without question in an emotional affair with this woman and acting as her white knight and saviour. A very difficult habit to break when these "white knights" know the "damsel" is still in distress and calling out for her "champion" to "rescue" her. The numerous long phone calls and all those texts and constant contact shows a deep level of connection between them that I don't believe either are going to give up so easily as you seem to think. She relies on him heavily and has her hooks in deep, and he seems addicted to rescuing her from her problems, and I don't for one moment believe they're going to let it go, just like that, just because you're uncomfortable and acting "irrational" over their "platonic" friendship.Thanks! No you’re not being rude at all. It was absolutely maddening to hear and read their interactions. I eventually completely lost my cool, said many ugly things I had in my mind to him. We were on the edge of irreparable marriage crisis. We were so furious at each other. He was mad at me not being able to trust him, and I was losing my mind because I couldn’t make him see what was happening. We really blew it all up one time (had to whisper-scream because it was after our daughter went to sleep), but it had to be done.
He agreed with me at the end, and he’s done helping her. She did call him last night but he showed me his phone screen and made a nervous face and didn’t answer it. He’ll have to explain why he can’t help her anymore at some point jus to be decent, but I don’t think we’ll be seeing her like we used to anymore.
If I ever see her again, I will do that. But the chances are very small!You should show her a link for online psychologists and tell her he's got to get back involved with his family and is out.
You're welcome. I wish I'd come here when it started in my marriage, maybe I wouldn't have wasted 10 years of my life.Thanks TXTrini! This is mostly because of you guys, everyone here, who continuously encouraged me to trust my gut feeling and get to the bottom of this. I’m certain that we’re still in the same **** if I didn’t talk to you guys! Thank you!!
Yes you're probably right that YOU won't be seeing her anymore. But your husband? I highly suspect he will be seeing her. You just won't be told about it. It'll be their little secret. I missed the part you wrote about the recent lack of sex in your marriage. This doesn't bode well for you, and what's been going on with them, I'm afraid. That along with her emotional neediness and clinging to your husband, and your husband's white knight syndrome? Not good. Don't fall for this sudden turn around by your husband and sweep this under the rug thinking all is well now because he's having sex with you, paying you attention, and she's (supposedly) gone from your life. I believe even more so now, regardless of the attention your husband is now showing you, that you need to keep quiet and keep a watchful eye open.If I ever see her again, I will do that. But the chances are very small!
Yes, he really did. He was a cop for 15 years, that’s a big chunk of one’s life. He wanted to do something important and was very good at it. He has a university degree, while nobody in the dept did, and he knew how to talk to people who were in extreme distress, saved many people’s lives. He used to get cards from people all the time. He said when he was helping her, he felt useful. He had a vision of how the dept would be when he became the chief; community oriented, closely working with the mental health professionals, zero use of physical force.. etc, but he couldn’t take the stress anymore, a lot of stress came within the dept and the police culture. He said he was lonely as a chief, dealing with emails all day.I think what happened to your husband is that he lost his identity when he stopped being a cop. So I think he's grateful for anyone who helps him hold on to that a little and makes him feel useful like the job did. I think maybe he needs to find another job where he feels useful like himself, even if it turns out to just be volunteer works.
I know. I was fully invested in an old career of mine and underwent a really big depression when that was over. It's not that I didn't have some other identities but that was my priority for decades. It left a huge void. When you have your whole life tied up in something and a living and breathing it and then it stops, it's just rough.Yes, he really did. He was a cop for 15 years, that’s a big chunk of one’s life. He wanted to do something important and was very good at it. He has a university degree, while nobody in the dept did, and he knew how to talk to people who were in extreme distress, saved many people’s lives. He used to get cards from people all the time. He said when he was helping her, he felt useful. He had a vision of how the dept would be when he became the chief; community oriented, closely working with the mental health professionals, zero use of physical force.. etc, but he couldn’t take the stress anymore, a lot of stress came within the dept and the police culture. He said he was lonely as a chief, dealing with emails all day.
He often says he might be damaged forever, and it’s heartbreaking. I think there absolutely should be more resources and direct support for the police officers’ mental health but there isn’t, one has to really seek for it. They are living with PTSD just like many soldiers do.
Sorry, I went on a tangent here! I’m really hoping that he can find a peace in his mind.
He actually works as a TA at a school, with students with special needs. He loves it. He always said he should have been a teacher while he worked as a police. He loves the positive and cooperative environment the school has, he was so happy when the staff said “Good morning” to him when he went there the first time! I think it’ll take him a while to get used to not being the boss but I know he appreciates the whole different level of humanity. The students like to talk to him so much that they are asked to be quiet by other teachers sometimes.I know. I was fully invested in an old career of mine and underwater a really big depression when that was over. It's not that I didn't have some other identities but that was my priority for decades. It left a huge void. When you have your whole life tied up in something and a living and breathing it and then it stops, it's just rough.
He had a really tough job with lots of complications and in an era when it's tougher than ever before. It was his dream and vision and he did it. I hope he comes to a place where he can hold on to that he did do it and did accomplish it and own that. But he's going to have to find something else to do that also fulfills him.
Do you know if he's had any ideas? I mean even something is small and simple as being a boy scout leader or youth counselor might help him and them. Some retired police get into security or become a private detective. He might even consider a different branch of law enforcement such as border security or Homeland Security. I don't think he's going to be able to sit around and do nothing without getting himself in more trouble!
That's great that he's already found something he loves. It does seem like that would be enough interaction and drama to where he didn't need anymore.He actually works as a TA at a school, with students with special needs. He loves it. He always said he should have been a teacher while he worked as a police. He loves the positive and cooperative environment the school has, he was so happy when the staff said “Good morning” to him when he went there the first time! I think it’ll take him a while to get used to not being the boss but I know he appreciates the whole different level of humanity. The students like to talk to him so much that they are asked to be quiet by other teachers sometimes.
Oh really? I don’t see it that way at all. And, I don’t appreciate your sarcasm. Don’t congratulate me if you’re not sincere. They crossed the line of being professional. He needed to move on, and she could, too. He was suffering. Have you ever asked your wife to drive you to the ER because you thought you were dying?Insecurity is a ugly thing.
He hired her
He left her to the wolves
He feels responsible and guilty for abandoning her.
I get it, I was over my guys in the service. Leadership puts you in the position of caring for those under you. It doesn’t end when you leave, especially when you left someone behind in trouble.
You just made him break one of his core valves, being there for someone in trouble. Congrats.
Was he cheating?
Or
Was he being there for someone in trouble?
Like I said, insecurity is ugly.
I couldn’t ask really when she did take me. I couldn’t put the words together. I then collapsed in the parking lot when we got there.Oh really? I don’t see it that way at all. And, I don’t appreciate your sarcasm. Don’t congratulate me if you’re not sincere. They crossed the line of being professional. He needed to move on, and she could, too. He was suffering. Have you ever asked your wife to drive you to the ER because you thought you were dying?
Glad to see you're not gonna take the insult. As they say, take what you need and leave the rest. Emotional cheating is cheating! And just read Shirley Glass' book, "Not Just Friends" (and also the many numerous posts on this and other infidelity forums) to see how this scenario (loose and innapropriate boundaries with coworkers of the opposite sex) plays out on all too many occasions.Oh really? I don’t see it that way at all. And, I don’t appreciate your sarcasm. Don’t congratulate me if you’re not sincere. They crossed the line of being professional. He needed to move on, and she could, too. He was suffering. Have you ever asked your wife to drive you to the ER because you thought you were dying?