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Alcohol, dating sites and unhappy marriage

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Hello, I’ll apologise if this is a long post, but I don’t know what to do. My wife has suffered from anxiety and depression and low self worth. We have been married for over 21 years with two kids 18 and 12. Alcohol is a major issue for her, which I know is a seperate topic. She is having specialist psychotherapy.
Recently, her behaviour has changed, increased drinking and staying up till 4am clubbing before a working day. This week, on my night shift, she was awake till 4am on Monday night and again last night. She signed up to match.com stating “Yes- just wanted to see if anyone liked me, am feeling insecure x” I tried to chat to her to make her feel better, but was told ‘I’m fine’. This morning, I came home from work at 6am and she was already in the shower having been awake till 4am. She admitted chatting to strange men on WhatsApp and was pleasuring herself. She said she was sent rude photos, but I did not ask if she had sent any back.
I probably overreacted this morning as she was very defensive and shady. She has said she’s not been happy in our marriage for months now, says she wants to work things out. But I am not sure she does.
we live in an expensive rented house, kids don’t want to move. Neither of us can afford to move out - unless we give up this house and find two places cheaper. I want to resolve things, but she accuses me of being always annoyed and grumpy. I’ve told her, I cannot cope with the alcohol abuse and inability to seek help. I just don’t know where to turn next. I do have five more sessions with relate, but don’t know whether to push to stay together, or accept it’s the end. I admit I can be grumpy, but it’s a reaction to her behaviour, which is likely to be issues from childhood coming out. It’s the shutting me out, when she wants open and honesty from me, knowing I’m home for kids when I need to be etc.
Apologies if this has come across jumbled, but I feel totally lost, upset and taken for granted😢
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may be both of you would be better off apart, some times one is pulling down the other , or using the other as a fall back ,
it seems like you would be best thinking about the kids first , and she needs to hit the wall or keep turning for years
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I wouldn't be able to tolerate your wife's behaviour. You have every right to be grumpy.
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Just from what you have said she seems like she loves you but she doesn't want to be married anymore. Match.com, she admitted she isn't happy. She says she wants to work it out probably just to stay in the house because if you divorce she has to find her own place. And she shows no desire to get help with drinking or your marriage. I would say she wants out especially talking to other men and not hiding it either. I would bring up possible divorce to her just to see if it wakes her up and makes her realize your ready to leave.
Hello, I’ll apologise if this is a long post, but I don’t know what to do. My wife has suffered from anxiety and depression and low self worth. We have been married for over 21 years with two kids 18 and 12. Alcohol is a major issue for her, which I know is a seperate topic. She is having specialist psychotherapy.
Recently, her behaviour has changed, increased drinking and staying up till 4am clubbing before a working day. This week, on my night shift, she was awake till 4am on Monday night and again last night. She signed up to match.com stating “Yes- just wanted to see if anyone liked me, am feeling insecure x” I tried to chat to her to make her feel better, but was told ‘I’m fine’. This morning, I came home from work at 6am and she was already in the shower having been awake till 4am. She admitted chatting to strange men on WhatsApp and was pleasuring herself. She said she was sent rude photos, but I did not ask if she had sent any back.
I probably overreacted this morning as she was very defensive and shady. She has said she’s not been happy in our marriage for months now, says she wants to work things out. But I am not sure she does.
we live in an expensive rented house, kids don’t want to move. Neither of us can afford to move out - unless we give up this house and find two places cheaper. I want to resolve things, but she accuses me of being always annoyed and grumpy. I’ve told her, I cannot cope with the alcohol abuse and inability to seek help. I just don’t know where to turn next. I do have five more sessions with relate, but don’t know whether to push to stay together, or accept it’s the end. I admit I can be grumpy, but it’s a reaction to her behaviour, which is likely to be issues from childhood coming out. It’s the shutting me out, when she wants open and honesty from me, knowing I’m home for kids when I need to be etc.
Apologies if this has come across jumbled, but I feel totally lost, upset and taken for granted😢
Your wife's behavior is unacceptable. She has cheated on you, and you are worried about overreacting? Short of physical violence you can't overreact. Get this is you head, SHE HAS CHEATED ON YOU. She pleasured herself late into the night with random men. She is on a dating app. And your feeling lost and taken for granted? Those are not the primary emotions you should be feeling right now.
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If alcohol is her problem, she needs to deal with that and then see where she's at. Meanwhile if she's drunk a lot, could you even trust her to split custody of the kids or would she be driving drunk or just neglecting them?

First she needs to stop drinking. Sounds like she has self-esteem problems as well but she's in therapy for that although she's chosen to go on a match site instead to pump up her ego. She really doesn't sound like she's making good decisions.

If you split, for finding a suitable place to live will be her problem but it'll have to be suitable for whatever children are left at home. Neither of you will be able to move away from the other sharing custody as far as too many miles away.

If she wants to work on your marriage she sure has a funny way of showing it.
She’s a psycho alcoholic who is rubbing them out in the shower to strange men she meets on her dating app.

Yeah….go find your balls

Then get a divorce
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It definitely sounds like she is cheating and is checked out of the marriage. Also sounds like she is doing blow or some other stimulant to keep going. No one can booze like that and show up to work....ok....maybe college kids can, but not grown ups.
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You do know what happens in clubs, right?
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Many thanks everyone. Reality is hard to accept, but it’s clear to see. I’ve got kids tea on the go and she’s on her way home from work. Regardless of discussions I’ve had on here, I’ll be extremely interested in how she is when she gets home.
Many things to comment on….

Why is she in therapy? Therapy occurs for 2 reasons, you’re being forced to go or you want help. She obviously doesn’t want help. If she’s being forced it’s worthless because, like I just mentioned, she doesn’t want help.

I truly believe in the vows “in sickness and in health”. She is sick, she needs help. She needs to go to an inpatient rehab center and deal with her alcoholism, depression, and self esteem. However, if the sick person refuses to get treatment, then you’re not obligated.

Why are you being an enabler? You’re watching the kids so she can go out drinking. Youre not doing any to prevent her from this behavior. You‘re providing the $ for this behavior. How much money is she spending on all this clubbing? Even if she’s drinking at home to excess, that adds up to a few $100 a month.

Of course no one wants to move, but is that what you’re really concerned about, the kids moving to a different neighborhood or school. You’re not worried about the examples you and your wife are setting as parents, teaching them that drinking to excess is ok. Arguing parents are ok. Infidelity is ok.

You’re really ok with her cheating on you?

You need to face reality. Your marriage is over. The only hope of saving it is to get her into a rehab program. If she refuses, tell her to get out.
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You are way UNDERreacting.

you need to either demand she straightens up and dries out and stops seeking other men, or
Sign on the dotted line in the divorce papers.
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OP, you say your wife suffers from low self worth, but it sounds like you have zero self worth. Find your confidence and leave that woman; she's already left you.
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Recently, her behaviour has changed, increased drinking and staying up till 4am clubbing before a working day. This week, on my night shift, she was awake till 4am on Monday night and again last night. She signed up to match.com stating “Yes- just wanted to see if anyone liked me, am feeling insecure x” I tried to chat to her to make her feel better, but was told ‘I’m fine’. This morning, I came home from work at 6am and she was already in the shower having been awake till 4am. She admitted chatting to strange men on WhatsApp and was pleasuring herself. She said she was sent rude photos, but I did not ask if she had sent any back.
There is NOTHING acceptable to what you wrote here that your wife is doing -- this is NOT how a married person acts.
She is out clubbing and drinking WITHOUT YOU?? NO WAY. She is on match.com!!!! SHE IS MARRIED. NO WAY.
She is chatting with strange men? NO WAY. She is pleasuring herself with these strange men and getting photos from them? NO WAY.
WHY did you accept ANY of this. NONE of this is acceptable. You need to tell her all this stops, or you WILL divorce her.
Too bad if you have to get a smaller place -- is staying in that house worth her cheating, disrespecting you, and her being a AWFUL example of what a wife and mother are to your kids?
Seriously, see a lawyer so that you'd know what a divorce would look like for you financially and child support/custody. You NEED to be willing to go through with it -- it may shock her out of this crap she is doing. But if NOT, you SURELY would be better without her.
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You shouldn’t use your real photo or anyone else’s as an avatar on a site like this, posting personal details about your marriage.
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Your wife is a drunk, a liar, and a cheater. She is a piss poor example for the children. And so are you! A proper man and father would NOT tolerate her alcohol addiction, her clubbing, her internet dating, or anything even close to it.

Shine up your spine, file for a divorce, and show your girls what a man with self respect looks like.
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@Davysad Sorry to hear about your problems. As a moderator on TAM I'm concerned that you might be using an image of your wife and yourself. Under the circumstances of the sensitive nature of your posts, if that is an image of your wife and yourself, you might wish to delete it and replace it with a different image.
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Thank you so much everyone for your kind words. Update from here… My wife came home from work yesterday, clearly ashamed and almost in tears. She was apologetic and admitted she had made a huge mistake. I have listened to her, told her what I felt and how it would have looked in the other direction. No doubt there will be many more conversations in the coming days and I will be seeking professional advice from relate and legal advice too. Perhaps we can save this, perhaps not. Truth is, I do not know, She thinks we can, BUT… I am well and truly guarded now, especially for my children’s sake. One things for sure, this will NOT happen again under my roof!!!
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Your wife's behavior is unacceptable. She has cheated on you, and you are worried about overreacting? Short of physical violence you can't overreact. Get this is you head, SHE HAS CHEATED ON YOU. She pleasured herself late into the night with random men. She is on a dating app. And your feeling lost and taken for granted? Those are not the primary emotions you should be feeling right now.
Also said she goes out clubbing to all hours. She has physically cheated with other men...no doubt.
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Thank you so much everyone for your kind words. Update from here… My wife came home from work yesterday, clearly ashamed and almost in tears. She was apologetic and admitted she had made a huge mistake. I have listened to her, told her what I felt and how it would have looked in the other direction. No doubt there will be many more conversations in the coming days and I will be seeking professional advice from relate and legal advice too. Perhaps we can save this, perhaps not. Truth is, I do not know, She thinks we can, BUT… I am well and truly guarded now, especially for my children’s sake. One things for sure, this will NOT happen again under my roof!!!
I would require a poly to verify no physical sex while out partying and possibly hooking up while you were at work.

Alcohol would stop.
Clubbing would stop.
Phone apps would stop.

Get proof of all this. Make a daily record of her activities for court/custody. I would monitor her comms and if she attempts talking to other guys again, divorce....hell you know she will, just go ahead and have papers prepared for when she does.
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