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A crazy thought about sexual attraction

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This post would probably be more appropriate for a psychology or other mental health forum, but I'm sure it's something a lot of married people have dealt with, so hopefully the idea will at least stimulate entertaining conversation.

I, for a long time, struggled with intense sexual attraction to a woman who was not my wife. Unfortunately, it was someone who I had to see a LOT, and I got really, really tired of the desires popping up and distracting me from the more important things in my life. I was bascially begging my therapist, my psychologist, doctors and anyone who would listen "teach me how to TURN THESE DESIRES OFF!!!!!! They're ruining my life!" and the only answer I ever got was, "Medical castration, which will greatly reduce your sexual desire ENTIRELY. Only way that's ever going to happen." It was pretty devastating to have to accept that I was just going to have to deal with this.

So fast forward to today - here's something I've been thinking about: I've been dieting and exercising for the past 2+ years. I've dropped about 65 pounds so far and want to drop 10 or 15 more. I had to completely eliminate a lot of foods from my diet. There were some foods that were just torture to cut out in the beginning - perhaps this will make you laugh, but I used to eat entire bags of Cheetos and entire packages of double-stuffed Oreo cookies. Pizza and Ice Cream were pretty tough to give up too - I'd walk by a restaurant and smell fresh pizza and almost drool (of course, there are pizzas like Quest that I can eat that allow me to quell that desire somewhat, but let's be honest, it's not the same as going to a Pizza Hut buffet!)

Anyway, today, I'm nowhere near as strongly "affected" by those types of foods. I'm so happy in my new body that going back to my old body is not even an option. In my new lifestyle, there are plenty of delicious foods I can eat that contribute meaningfully to my health goals. Now I walk by an Italian restaurant and think, "You know what? That does smell good, but I don't need it."

The point I'm about to make is probably pretty obvious, but I'm wondering if there's a connection between how happy one is in one's own relationship (marriage or otherwise) - indeed, in their entire LIFE for that matter - and how painful and intrusive outside temptations can be.

I'm not slam-dunk sure. I know plenty of people who are simply never happy with what they have. It's kind of sad. NOBODY'S life is perfect, I don't care who you are - EVERYBODY needs to learn to focus on the positive things in their lives and try not to obsess over the things they wish were different.

On the other hand, though, if there WEREN'T a wide array of delicious foods I can eat that contribute to my health goals (i.e. if I absolutely HATED eating fruits, veggies, salads, lean meats etc.), I'm not sure I'd be so immune to the temptations of pizza and ice cream for example.

Hope this elicits fun conversation.
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I think it's an interesting concept and sounds truthful.

Having a higher level of health and satisfaction in your life does seem to help with self control and curb unwanted impulses.

Also having the discipline within yourself to control what you eat and make yourself exercise can also be used in the sexual arena for control and restraint as well.
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Hunger and need for sex are both primal biological urges because they contribute to continuation of the individual (hunger) and continuation of the species (sex). So yeah I think it’s fair to say they are similar and coming from the same place. At least from a purely biological perspective.
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When I'm attracted to a woman, often, I think about her kids, her husband, and all the details of her life I would be disrupting. Also the details of her life I don't know about.

However the magnetic attraction is almost involuntary it seems.
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I was bascially begging my therapist, my psychologist, doctors and anyone who would listen "teach me how to TURN THESE DESIRES OFF!!!!!! They're ruining my life!" and the only answer I ever got was, "Medical castration, which will greatly reduce your sexual desire ENTIRELY.
It seems to make sense that working on a new way of living your life might give you release from obsession.

Your doctors need additional training. I was castrate for most of 2020 and remained sexually active. There are a number of things that drive sexual action other than testosterone. In places where castration is offered as an alternative to incarceration for sex offenders, they find that castrate offenders continue to be sexually aggressive or violent.
Losing weight and getting into shape builds your confidence in life. People will see it and women love it.

So yes getting into shape and losing weight will help your marriage life a ton.
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Now I walk by an Italian restaurant and think, "You know what? That does smell good, but I don't need it."
Hold on a sec!! There are plenty of Italian dishes that are extremely healthy!!
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I remember your other thread.

You were/are obsessed physically and emotionally with your niece.

I am unable to have any kind of "fun" conversation about any of this.
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I remember your other thread.

You were/are obsessed physically and emotionally with your niece.

I am unable to have any kind of "fun" conversation about any of this.
He was definitely unhealthy in more than one way.
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I would appreciate if any comments about my previous thread could be made in the previous thread. Thanks in advance.
I would appreciate if any comments about my previous thread could be made in the previous thread. Thanks in advance.

I cant speak for everyone, but as someone that doesn't pay attention to previous threads, or doesn't bother to look into it, it is quite helpful to know this type of information as it affects what the response would typically be...in most cases, anyway,...
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This post would probably be more appropriate for a psychology or other mental health forum, but I'm sure it's something a lot of married people have dealt with, so hopefully the idea will at least stimulate entertaining conversation.

I, for a long time, struggled with intense sexual attraction to a woman who was not my wife. Unfortunately, it was someone who I had to see a LOT, and I got really, really tired of the desires popping up and distracting me from the more important things in my life. I was bascially begging my therapist, my psychologist, doctors and anyone who would listen "teach me how to TURN THESE DESIRES OFF!!!!!! They're ruining my life!" and the only answer I ever got was, "Medical castration, which will greatly reduce your sexual desire ENTIRELY. Only way that's ever going to happen." It was pretty devastating to have to accept that I was just going to have to deal with this.

So fast forward to today - here's something I've been thinking about: I've been dieting and exercising for the past 2+ years. I've dropped about 65 pounds so far and want to drop 10 or 15 more. I had to completely eliminate a lot of foods from my diet. There were some foods that were just torture to cut out in the beginning - perhaps this will make you laugh, but I used to eat entire bags of Cheetos and entire packages of double-stuffed Oreo cookies. Pizza and Ice Cream were pretty tough to give up too - I'd walk by a restaurant and smell fresh pizza and almost drool (of course, there are pizzas like Quest that I can eat that allow me to quell that desire somewhat, but let's be honest, it's not the same as going to a Pizza Hut buffet!)

Anyway, today, I'm nowhere near as strongly "affected" by those types of foods. I'm so happy in my new body that going back to my old body is not even an option. In my new lifestyle, there are plenty of delicious foods I can eat that contribute meaningfully to my health goals. Now I walk by an Italian restaurant and think, "You know what? That does smell good, but I don't need it."

The point I'm about to make is probably pretty obvious, but I'm wondering if there's a connection between how happy one is in one's own relationship (marriage or otherwise) - indeed, in their entire LIFE for that matter - and how painful and intrusive outside temptations can be.

I'm not slam-dunk sure. I know plenty of people who are simply never happy with what they have. It's kind of sad. NOBODY'S life is perfect, I don't care who you are - EVERYBODY needs to learn to focus on the positive things in their lives and try not to obsess over the things they wish were different.

On the other hand, though, if there WEREN'T a wide array of delicious foods I can eat that contribute to my health goals (i.e. if I absolutely HATED eating fruits, veggies, salads, lean meats etc.), I'm not sure I'd be so immune to the temptations of pizza and ice cream for example.

Hope this elicits fun conversation.
Well it seems to be a no brainer that the happier you are with what you have in your life the less likely that you will look longingly at outside temptations. However, I don't think it completely eliminates those temptations. It just makes them a little easier to resist.

Does this mean you think your attraction to your niece is in part due to not being happy in your marriage and sex life?
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I cant speak for everyone, but as someone that doesn't pay attention to previous threads, or doesn't bother to look into it, it is quite helpful to know this type of information as it affects what the response would typically be...in most cases, anyway,...
Fair enough. Understood.

In my particular case, the situation in that previous thread was very painful for me, and I spent MONTHS in therapy trying to fix things so I could do right for my family. I'm looking forward to putting that whole nightmare permanently behind me.

I hope that helps explain why I'm asking people to leave comments about that situation in the thread for that situation. Thanks.
Well it seems to be a no brainer that the happier you are with what you have in your life the less likely that you will look longingly at outside temptations. However, I don't think it completely eliminates those temptations. It just makes them a little easier to resist.

Does this mean you think your attraction to your niece is in part due to not being happy in your marriage and sex life?
As I just responded to hamadryad, I'm really trying to put that whole nightmare with my niece behind me. But I will respond to you because you asked the question respectfully (which I appreciate).

There were a MULTITUDE of things going on in my head that contributed to that nightmare going all the way back to junior high. It was a painful process of dealing with all that trauma. Things are much better now thank God. Any dissatisfaction in my marriage I believe is due to my needing to work on appreciating what I have and not dwell on what I wish was different.
I remember your other thread.

You were/are obsessed physically and emotionally with your niece.

I am unable to have any kind of "fun" conversation about any of this.
Yep, gross.
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I would appreciate if any comments about my previous thread could be made in the previous thread. Thanks in advance.
Fair enough.

Also having lost a lot of weight, and been through training with a Sex Therapist to rebuild a sex starved marriage, I think I can offer a couple comments.

First, I once attended some hypnosis classes to help loose weight and purchased some self-hypnosis CD's to listen to. Hypnosis and self-hypnosis are sometimes effective ways to reprogram one's subconscious to avoid things that are bad for you. It doesn't always work and for some it still requires effort and will power by the conscious mind.

Another method that is closely related is "Affirmations." This is saying and repeating phrases you want to program in your mind. Examples, are I love my wife, I can't imagine having sex with anyone other than my wife, my wife has blessed my life with so much happiness, etc.

Still another approach is visualization. One study indicated that basketball players who visualized successfully shooting free throws improved about as much as those who spent the same amount of time on a court practicing free throws. I know that when loosing weight, I visualized a new thinner and fitter person, a person who like to eat salads and avoid french fries. In Sex Therapy the ST help my wife and me visualize and discuss what a happy sexual relationship looked like and what it included. The more we visualized it, the more it happened.

There are also aversion therapy methods you could use, but that is not my thing.
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I also tell my W when I'm attracted to some woman or when a woman is forward with me, adds a layer of improbability and radical honesty.
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As I just responded to hamadryad, I'm really trying to put that whole nightmare with my niece behind me. But I will respond to you because you asked the question respectfully (which I appreciate).

There were a MULTITUDE of things going on in my head that contributed to that nightmare going all the way back to junior high. It was a painful process of dealing with all that trauma. Things are much better now thank God. Any dissatisfaction in my marriage I believe is due to my needing to work on appreciating what I have and not dwell on what I wish was different.
HOw are you going about that, being happier with what you have?
Well it seems to be a no brainer that the happier you are with what you have in your life the less likely that you will look longingly at outside temptations. However, I don't think it completely eliminates those temptations. It just makes them a little easier to resist.

Does this mean you think your attraction to your niece is in part due to not being happy in your marriage and sex life?
This is probably the most accurate assessment of the overall, I've seen in this thread. Attractions will be there. There is no helping it. It's why we can, usually, find another mate after a death or a divorce. There is no one person for us. One at a time, sure, but never only ever one. But like hunger, when needs are not met, then the attractions/temptations will get stronger. So if you are not getting your needs met then you automatically look for what will fulfill it.

Now, keeping with that hunger parallel, when you start eating better, you can retrain your needs to less. So that makes outside temptations less powerful. Same can go for sexual needs. For me, I several times a day note when I see something/someone attractive. Hell my wife will point out attractive women for me. I do the same for them. It just becomes a matter of enjoy the view and move on. Similar to passing a bakery, enjoying the smell of the food baking, and then moving on without getting anything to eat. So you can get yourself to be less tempted even if not less attracted. It sounds like you're getting there with that, OP.
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Look good, you feel good. Feel good, you look good. Something I learned in a drug and alcohol rehab i went to many moons ago. I feel a healthy life style can and does refocus ones thoughts. Instead of unhealthy thinking and lack of motivation, we began to focus on the importance of our lives and what we perceive as our happiness.
Getting healthier promotes more positive thinking and feelings to the point where such intrusive thoughts probably don't stand a chance to to vie with better thinking. Your attitude shifts and where you could find the person sexually attractive, you begin to slowly see them as different from you now, not as in shape or having crappy lunch habits and so on. Placing the bar higher on your thoughts and a healthier outlook towards your marriage and kids.
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